Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I haven't got to do anything.
Pretty easy to define who lives in area - use the Council boundaries.
So in principle you aren't against the idea.
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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I haven't got to do anything.
Pretty easy to define who lives in area - use the Council boundaries.
So in principle you aren't against the idea.
Loose meat
Well-Known Member
The irony.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
The council boundaries as in the whole borough?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Actually, I think this idea is viable. The enforcement of the scheme works by using ANPR, in other words numberplate recognition. Cars are registered to specific addresses. You could easily define addresses within the boundaries of the LTNs.
It’s something that certainly should be looked at in terms of the modelling, and it’s a compromise that I might be prepared to make depending on the outcome of that modelling.
This will totally screw with things like satnavs as they don’t have the concept of road tolls which are variable per habited postcode.
( and this would have the benefit of forcing people who don’t “know“ to use arterial routes )
I think the anpr solution is a goer, free if you live within a mile, a tenner a go if you don’t.
It already happens in dulwich Tollgate and roads
Alex
Alex
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I don’t want to see ‘pay per use‘ LTNs as that just benefits the well-off. I was just suggesting that it should be practical to adapt the existing model to allow a carve-out for people living within the LTN.
I was being facetious, a toll is always affordable to someone.
Loose meat
Well-Known Member
Yeah, like no one wants that. Have you made your socialy distanced booking with Foxton's yet ...
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
No, I was asking if he meant council boundaries - i.e anyone in the whole borough could drive through the gates.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Fuck off troll.
Loose meat
Well-Known Member
Check out those sharp elbows ..
editor
hiraethified
New statement from the somewhat mysterious OneOval OneOval campaign cites Fire Brigade safety issues with the Oval Triangle Low Traffic Neighbourhood
Buzz will run a response from Save Oval Streets shortly.
Buzz will run a response from Save Oval Streets shortly.
snowy_again
Slush
If looking out the window counts as evidence, the ability for fire engines to get from the Brixton site to Tulse Hill has reduced as they now have a long relatively empty railton road to use at speed and seem to be preferring that to Dulwich Road (which has more obstacles and junctions).
newbie
undisambiguated
why should decisions devolve only to those most likely to see benefit, whether financial or quality of life? Does no-one else deserve a say?
editor
hiraethified
Anti Railton Road LTN website
www.onerailton.co.uk
www.onerailton.co.uk
They get a bit carried away here
Action against Railton LTN | One Railton | Brixton
Action against Railton LTN undemocratic road closures imposed without consultation
About Us | One Railton
They get a bit carried away here
snowy_again
Slush
Almost identical introduction copy as the one oval / one Dulwich ones etc.
Also full of factual inaccuracies which make some of the valid points less credible.
Also full of factual inaccuracies which make some of the valid points less credible.
editor
hiraethified
Trying to slip in a racial angle is despicable.
snowy_again
Slush
I don’t think it’s wrong to question equity / equality in this as newbie has pointed out, but ‘barricades’?
Also I now have Spandau Ballet in my head.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
The council has drawn a boundary for the Brixton Liveable neighborhood.
It's divided that area into sub sections. Railton LTN is one of the sub sections. Hence the name.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Ok, So only people living in the LTN. Like I said earlier they would have to weigh up the cost of administering the scheme Vs an extra 10 or 15 or so mins saved for drivers. Are any of the other London LTNs that have been rolled out doing this?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
There's one in Fulham(?) that was discussed upthread, although slightly different arrangement.
editor
hiraethified
Whatever you think about LTNs, they're definitely divisive and ripe for political exploitation
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Save Oval Streets hits back at OneOval’s ‘misleading information’ about emergency access to the the Oval Triangle LTN
Lambeth’s Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme continues to prove a contentious and hugely divisive issue, spawning petitions and counter petitions, pressure groups and what some feel are …
www.brixtonbuzz.com
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Don't know about others but in waze you can enter exemptions from tolls/blocked zones if you have one.
didn’t know that, handy
snowy_again
Slush
Lots of BDA / Black Cab / LTDA and UKIP involvement in the Islington anti groups who then get retweeted by racist anti Sadiq Khan bots.Whatever you think about LTNs, they're definitely divisive and ripe for political exploitation
Save Oval Streets hits back at OneOval’s ‘misleading information’ about emergency access to the the Oval Triangle LTN
Lambeth’s Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme continues to prove a contentious and hugely divisive issue, spawning petitions and counter petitions, pressure groups and what some feel are …
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
You and I don't see 10/15 mins extra driving being a big deal but obviously many do. Whilst I'd love to be purist about this, I see it essentially as a political compromise to remove at a stroke the objections of those inside the zone.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
The thing is, if you're driving around london you can easily spend 10 mins stationary in traffic, especially in busy times.
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