BigTom
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It's this chap who is compiling the spreadsheet I think - if you want to let him know.
Cheers, I'm not on twitter but someone who is could send him a link to my post.
It's this chap who is compiling the spreadsheet I think - if you want to let him know.
No, it doesn't. I await the next step of your argument.Removal of subsidised travel for under 18s also has far more supporters than opposers. Does that mean that, if a majority people are OK Jack, the needs and concerns of those negatively impacted by the policy should be ignored?
In the Guardian
Despite a loud opposing minority, low-traffic neighbourhoods are increasingly popular
YouGov poll found positive views on LTNs are three times higher than negative oneswww.theguardian.com
Think the new ones are mapped here:
Those people at the Guardian sneakily trying to disguise this - by publishing it under the title of "bike blog".Apparently an article by someone who has had books published on how cycling will save the world? Pinch of salt me thinks.
Bike Nation
A revolution on the roads is approaching. Is it time for drivers to Give Way? Guardian news correspondent, Peter Walker, takes us on a journey around the world, exploring the varying attitudes to cycling on our highways. Visit the shining examples of Amsterdam and Copenhagen, where cycling...books.google.co.uk
On One Lambeth they are concerned about the safety of the pillars separating off the bike lane.
Safety. They are concerned about safety. That's all.
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Removal of subsidised travel for under 18s also has far more supporters than opposers. Does that mean that, if a majority people are OK Jack, the needs and concerns of those negatively impacted by the policy should be ignored?
The latest thing on there seems to be that they just don't believe it's true that the majority of households in Lambeth/LTN areas don't own a car. That the numbers are being fiddled.
The latest thing on there seems to be that they just don't believe it's true that the majority of households in Lambeth/LTN areas don't own a car. That the numbers are being fiddled.
one lambeth member said:So 40% with cars is still the majority, coz 20% cyclists,20% public transport, 20% walkers, and don’t forget that even though 40% have a car the household members will have access to it
They seem to think the numbers won't be right because they are from nearly ten years ago.
If the facts show that inner london car ownership has fallen then that is another argument that inner london LTNs are about stopping through traffic and local people who still own cars should be able to move freely using ANPR technology.
As has been said before this is likely to get rid of most opposition.
yeah the taxi drivers and tories will be totally in favour then
That's because whether there are more, or fewer, cars per household than estimated, we still need to reduce the number on the roads. It's the number on the roads, causing congestion and pollution and taking away space from other users that matters.Well this is why you can't win with the whole 'number of cars per household' fight and most people don't care.
If it's more than thought 'We need to force people out of the their cars that's too many!'
If it's less 'So few people have a car let's retake the roads'
Why does that change the fact that many of the trips that people who do still own cars are making have been shown to be short and possible to do by other means?If the facts show that inner london car ownership has fallen then that is another argument that inner london LTNs are about stopping through traffic and local people who still own cars should be able to move freely using ANPR technology.
As has been said before this is likely to get rid of most opposition.
If the facts show that inner london car ownership has fallen then that is another argument that inner london LTNs are about stopping through traffic and local people who still own cars should be able to move freely using ANPR technology.
As has been said before this is likely to get rid of most opposition.
Why does that change the fact that many of the trips that people who do still own cars are making have been shown to be short and possible to do by other means?
Your argument seems to be that we must not interfere with any of the current trips by local residents by car.
Given that the government might try and force Khan/ TFL to extend the congestion zone inner London LTNs might become partially redundant.
Interesting thst Green party oppose it and argue for road pricing instead. Something I think newbie has talked about earlier in this thread.
The extension to congestion charge zone is about the Tories wanting to make Khan/TFL suffer post pandemic. Its about revenue collection. As government won't fully support TFL losses due to pandemic. Despite expecting them to run a service.
Why the row over congestion charge expansion could tear London apart
No 10 and the mayor are at loggerheads over how to fill a hole in the capital’s transport budget. But is it a £2bn game of bluff?www.theguardian.com