Brixton chitter chatter, part 2
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lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Did the first day of two-way working around Brixton Hill/St Matthew's Road actually happen today or was it abandoned because of the storms?
story
Changing the facts
You mean the new traffic flow?
There was two-way traffic on the Brixton Hill side of St Matthew's. It all looked pretty smooth and unsnarled to me.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
I suppose Monday morning will be the real test.
story
Changing the facts
... as my Beloved and I commented to each other while crossing the road there this very morn...
And another thing: the sequence of lights while crossing from Effra Road all the way over to Brixton Hill has always been very pedestrian friendly: if you got a green man at the start, you could catch all the other green men at a comfortable pace. This has always been a small but pleasing part of my day. I doubt that will continue to be the case now.
gaijingirl
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Crossing Coldharbour Lane today from the corner at KFC to the corner by the Ritzy we noticed pedestrian lights have been installed. The traffic moving south from Brixton Road is now straight ahead only (no left-hand turn into CHL). However, on several occasions we saw people very nearly being run down whilst crossing on a green pedestrian crossing by drivers turning left who hadn't realised/didn't care about it being no left-hand turn. There are "straight ahead only" road signs but maybe that junction could benefit from some "new traffic layout" signs or something, 'cos it was a bit scary seeing that today (in a really short amount of time).
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Once people get used to it it will be fine, I reckon. Doesn't make sense to go round the one way system if you can go straight on up Brixton Hill. Is Effra Rd two-way now as well?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
DJWrongspeed
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it was flowing better than the past few weeks of horrendous traffic jams, phew.
ajdown
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That's the thing - I'm not convinced that the road changes in themselves have alleviated the traffic problem - rather that the removal of the restrictions has opened up the flow of traffic to return back to pre-roadworks levels.
As tends to be the case in most of these 'traffic improvement' schemes.
As tends to be the case in most of these 'traffic improvement' schemes.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
The only benefit I can see is that it lightens the flow up Effra Road, therefore enabling the traffic not to get backed up on Brixton Road and Stockwell Road. When the traffic can't get off Stockwell Road onto Brixton Road then it affects the traffic going both directions.
Therefore, if there is an accident on Tulse Hill, I can't see it making any difference to the flow of traffic
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
It means you no longer have to go via Effra Road to get up Brixton Hill. You can just go straight on a the lights by KFC, ifyswim. If you want to get to Tulse Hill, Herne Hill or indeed my house you go via Effra Road as usual. It means that there should, in theory, be a lot less traffic on Effra Road.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I know that you now go straight up brixton hill and I thought that people would still access Effra road in the same way. I was responding to someone's post which seemed to contradict that. I still don't know what he means.
It was his first post ever. I'm giving it 2/10.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Poor guy. First post and he's confused everyone.
Well not everyone, just Quimmy
perhaps you can explain it to me then, minnie.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
perhaps you can explain it to me then, minnie.
I took it to mean they were going round the church to go up the Hill, although I'm not sure that's possible except for cyclists, so everyone who was going up Effra were actually intending to go up Effra
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Nope. Can you quote him and break it down a bit more for me. What is your analysis of the 'access only' bit?
Can you draw a map with directional arrows to show what you mean?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
No I can't. I've a ladder to be up.
Have a look at the TFL map
that doesn't help without the analysis of his comment, the one that didn't confuse you.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
The motivation behind the change is to reduce the traffic running alongside the new Central Square Plaza Of Opportunity and Equality or whatever it is. If you can still go up Effra and turn right to go up the Hill, then that was a bit silly of them wasn't it?
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
You have to be able to do that though, because otherwise how would you get up Brixton Hill if you're going in the other direction (ie coming from Herne Hill)? But most people won't bother, presumably, because it doesn't make much sense.
Hopefully it will make it much easier for those of us who have to get onto Acre Lane coming from Saltoun/Kellett Road.
I'm hoping the new layout means that buses going straight from Brixton to Streatham will sail southwards with no problems rather than getting snarled up in gridlock round the church when northwards on the road is busy, but I'm reserving judgement till I see it on a busy day.
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