RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I was born in 1963. I demand bitter or I'm not going in pubs anymore. And that will fucking show 'em.
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I was right then. Good
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Might actually be good. Pubs are more often than not shite now. Just a weird, sanitised version of what they used to be. Round here everybody used to rush in for the last hour, and several pubs did after-time. Now they're half-full at teatime and nearly empty at 10PM.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It’s a no brainer for pubs with ever decreasing margins - sell beer young people will drink 5+ pints of, plus shots and jagerbombs or sell one pint of bitter to an embittered old crust like Tommy off of Early Doors, who’ll make it last all evening?
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Round here my much younger near-neighbours are fucking self-styled Christians. They do drink-I've been in their houses before Christmas and had a laugh with them. But they definitely don't drink all you've said in pubs, not often at least. Isn't it said that drink and drug consumption is going down amongst the young? Meanwhile there's inevitably gonna be a load of old pissheads who feel alienated by the contemporary (irreversible) sanitised pub culture.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Drink spikers, dodgy drunks, pretentious poseurs, fashion victims, fascists, fakers, media twits and other assorted arses.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Have you ever been in one? Don’t you live in Japan. I’ve been in that sort of establishment and they’re full of the kind of people who go to pubs
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
There’s plentu of young people getting hammered where I live and in London.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Same here. But you do read stuff saying drink consumption is falling among the younger element. I don't know for sure, as I avoid them if I can. Generally, I just don't find them as interesting as I was when young.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Are you Lletsa? You’ll be slagging off their tattoos next, those horrible young people who have more fun left to have than you
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I really do resent them for the 'fun' that lies ahead of them. I even resent them for the wars they're going to live through. After all, ours were bad enough, but theirs might be a lot more exciting in that they might be directly affected, with all the exhilarating terrors. As for the tattooos, aren't they dying out slowly as well? Hopefully anyway.
(Think we've gone off topic.)
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Yes, have been in a couple. Now sure what Japan has to do with it, though.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Tattoos have been with us for thousands of years and will never die out.
Why, only the other day got "LOVE" and "LLETSA" inked on my knuckles.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
On a number of occasions their committment to the Real Living Wage was highlighted on this thread but simply met with the usual dismissive invective.
We know that they monitor opinions here. They will have decided that it's just not worth trying to sign up to stuff like this because it makes no difference to the way they are viewed by the mob. It won't reduce the barrage of negativity.
On the other hand they'll have noted that when they enter into controversy - manufactured or otherwise, the headbangers generate pages of free publicity for them. As some of us have been trying to explain on this thread.
Personally I think it's a mistake for them to abandon the RLW but I can see why they might have decided to do so. And perhaps some contributors to this thread should take a good look at their behaviour and examine their part in causing this decision to be made. I for one can at least say I have tried to promote the more positive aspects of their employment policies in order to encourage them to maintain them. It's sad that it was a futile endeavour.
We know that they monitor opinions here. They will have decided that it's just not worth trying to sign up to stuff like this because it makes no difference to the way they are viewed by the mob. It won't reduce the barrage of negativity.
On the other hand they'll have noted that when they enter into controversy - manufactured or otherwise, the headbangers generate pages of free publicity for them. As some of us have been trying to explain on this thread.
Personally I think it's a mistake for them to abandon the RLW but I can see why they might have decided to do so. And perhaps some contributors to this thread should take a good look at their behaviour and examine their part in causing this decision to be made. I for one can at least say I have tried to promote the more positive aspects of their employment policies in order to encourage them to maintain them. It's sad that it was a futile endeavour.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Can it, teuchter - the mob has spoken
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
This is quite interesting.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yeah this stuff is getting even sillier now. I've been in Brewdogs a few times and every time it's been because someone has organised a meet there and they've all been ordinary enough people. Who'd all find the existence of this thread downright weird.
This idea that they're all full of 'fanboys' or whatever who fit some 2006 version of a hipster is pretty unpleasant tbh.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Nah I would say a lot of my mates in early 40s like bitter so there’s a few decades left
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Dunnno about the age thing but there’s some truth in this. Many pubs and bars in London don’t have any hand-raised beers at all now. I asked a local landlord if he’d put at least one on and he flatly refused, saying he wouldn’t sell enough and it spoils much faster than pressured stuff.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
According to this (2020) UK polling data asking respondents to name their favoured beer types, it is true that bitter has the most obviously age-skewed profile of all of the major beer types, but obviously Orang Utan is exaggerating when claiming that no-one under 60 likes bitter. Around 30 to 35% of 25 - 54 year olds named bitter as a favourite.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Nobody on here really thinks that, tbf. They just say it because they want to be part of a gang.
Whenever I've been in a BD it's been an eclectic mix of punters from youngsters taking advantage of the wifi and hot-desking, tourists, lunchers, after-workers, commuters etc. There's no "type" that uses them, just a "type" who avoids them, and you can see who they are from this thread.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It'd be interesting to see how that's changed over the last 40-50 years.
Certainly in my youth, bitter (or bitter mixes) seemed almost as popular as lager. My theory is that the brewers have changed what what people drink through marketing, rather than being led by demand. The proliferation of "craft" beers, most of which are lager styles, supports that. A bit of a shame but times change.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Really? In my youth the only thing anyone under 40 seemed to drink was lager. The big change I experienced through my drinking period (now over, alas) was the rise of real ale, albeit very much skewed towards the hoppy pale ale end of things. And I think that resurgence was driven initially by enthusiasts, then obviously co-opted by the brewers and marketers as everything always is.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Same, although they'd be in their 50s now. Haven't been in the Japanese outlets, could be an entire different demographic of course.
Looking forward to hitting a spoons in the future. Plenty of choice and none of the fakery.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, not so much a theory but certainly what the large, consolidated brewers attempted to do from the 1960s onwards. The introduction and heavy marketing of keg beers was, of course, all about their bottom-lines rather than any actual consumer demand for lifeless, fizzy stuff. The cost-cutting attractions associated with increased cellar-life, reduced wastage and de-skilled bar-keeping were obvious to the big brewers.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Don't know how old you are and perhaps there's some regionality to consider but my young drinking was done in the 80s, and bitter still seemed very popular then. Every pub had a couple and many were advertised on tv. Light and bitter seemed the drink of choice for many but if you asked for that in a pub now they'd probably wonder wtf you're talking about.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep, plenty of old (some politically incorrect) terms for the half and half mix. Where I started drinking (in a town with 2 breweries) the favoured term, if it had to used at all, was 'AB' for ale (mild) & bitter. Other areas that favoured the descriptor 'old ale' for their mild type beer (Some parts of Sussex) used the term Mother-in-law for Old & bitter.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
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