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Boris's ban on alcohol on London Transport (with poll)

What do you think of Boris's proposed ban on drinking on public transport?


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I think it would be especially useful now that the warmer weather is with us and the likelihood of indecent dress or stylistic errors in the name of comfort is all the greater.

Well, go on then, provide us with your guidelines, then.

You seem to be all talk and no trousers on this issue.
 
Ugh. Flip-flops probably top my list of things that should never be worn.

Inelegant at the best of times and more often than not worn by people with the worst feet imaginable.

I have beautiful feet, I'll have you know. Muscular, clean, well kept....

Northern Europeans just don't understand the proper clothing for hot weather, which is why the tube smells like a badger set for most of the summer.
 
Untethered, you may be interested to know that the gendarmes at Cannes enforce just such a policy regarding dress. They keep a particularly close eye on the railway station. Those passengers who disembark in a state of sartorial disarray are advised to smarten up or get back on the train.
 
For gentlemen in the warmer weather, head to toe:

1. If you want to get ahead, get a hat. A good hat is elegant and gives practical protection from the sun. The Panama hat is a deserved classic, being lightweight and stylish. A good one will also roll for storage and transport. For a more casual look, a broad-brimmed canvas hat does the job (think cricket umpires). Stick to light solid colours. Avoid slogans, badges and logos. You're not playing sport. (Unless you are, in which case none of this applies.) Also avoid caps, especially baseball caps. Anything "zany" (unusual shapes or colour schemes). Going bare-headed in the street is unwise but don't wear the thing indoors.

2. A fine shirt is the cornerstone of any outfit. In warmer weather the shirt is even more prominent as its likely to be worn uncovered, so this is the time to invest in some good lightweight shirts for summer rather than slacken off into casual or "sporting" styles. Keep it light. No-one ever got turned away for wearing white. Avoid effeminate colours (pink and pastels).

A shirt is meant to fit. It's not a smock. If you're an unusual size, get one made to measure. Nothing looks worse than an extra half inch in the collar or on the sleeves.

Avoid short sleeves unless you're a pilot or a security guard. You probably wouldn't want to be mistaken for either.

Lightweight cotton, linen and silk/linen mixes are suitable for summer.

The collar should be open if the occasion is informal, or buttoned with a tie if not. If a tie is worn, do it properly - either properly tied around your closed collar or not at all. Avoid the slovenly look of a slackened tie and open collar.

Do I really need to say "tuck it in"? Probably.

There is never a good reason to wear a t-shirt. Vests are underwear.

To be continued...
 
The new Singapore looms...

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thanks God they don't eat durians in London.
 
Untethered, you may be interested to know that the gendarmes at Cannes enforce just such a policy regarding dress. They keep a particularly close eye on the railway station. Those passengers who disembark in a state of sartorial disarray are advised to smarten up or get back on the train.

Sounds fantastic.

Of course, the police in this country are often as badly dressed as many of the populace.
 
Of course, the police in this country are often as badly dressed as many of the populace.

This is generally true. Many of them don't know how to dress smartly and seem only too willing to leap into those loutish paramilitary style outfits with the black baseball hats at the slightest excuse.

Also, many policemen today are very short. Combined with their often scruffy appearance, it's no wonder that they struggle to command respect. Not that I am ever rude to them. First, I was brought up to respect the police and, second, at a shade over six foot tall, I don't wish to incur the vengeance of the 'little people'.
 
The idea is a perfectly reasonable one. Guidelines for style, laws for decency.

Yesterday saw me in a white long-sleeved Oxford shirt, brown Derby shoes, stone chinos and a navy v-necked sweater later in the day. Topped off with a Panama hat, of course.
Quality trolling, sire.
 
As much as I long to see the return of men in sharp hats, I feel compelled to point out that wearing a hat doesn't instantly confer sartorial success. My boss often wears a black trilby-style affair, and fond as I am of my boss, he looks a complete arse in it. Men embarking on a new career of hat-wearing are just as likely to get it wrong as they are with anything else.
 
I have beautiful feet, I'll have you know. Muscular, clean, well kept....

Northern Europeans just don't understand the proper clothing for hot weather, which is why the tube smells like a badger set for most of the summer.

ha ha so true.
 
As much as I long to see the return of men in sharp hats, I feel compelled to point out that wearing a hat doesn't instantly confer sartorial success. My boss often wears a black trilby-style affair, and fond as I am of my boss, he looks a complete arse in it. Men embarking on a new career of hat-wearing are just as likely to get it wrong as they are with anything else.
It's all about the right hat. I have a friend who wears a hat, and it suits him perfectly, but anyone else would look a complete dick in it. I don't have the right hat, but if it finds me one day, I shall not resist it.
 
That said, in one of those peculiar moments of life yesterday I noticed a young man in the "gangster/hoodie" mode that was wearing elegant black leather gloves despite the heat, and thought that the routine wearing of gloves in public was a worthwhile convention that has sadly passed.

Were you in the environs of Elephant & Castle at the time?
 
Well... as a matter of routine whenever working in Soho I'll usually pop into Oddbins on the way to Oxford Circus and take advantage of their DAB beer deal, then drink one on the tube, then another on the train, and maybe even another on if it's late and the journey is longer than normal.

I very much doubt this new rule is going to stop me. Sod off Boris.

However, leery drunks who swig from bottles spirits and smell of piss - fuck them off!

And the main development seems to have been avoided here - knife detectors and scanners. Fuck yes.

Can we have minimum sentences of 2 or 3 years for knife carriers, and 5 years for gunmen?

Fucking hope so. In this Bozza has my support.
 
Hopefully this will be the first step towards a decency revolution in London. It's a small step, but it could mark the beginning of the end for people who think they should be able to dress, speak and act as they please in public without any regard for their fellow citizens.

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And the main development seems to have been avoided here - knife detectors and scanners. Fuck yes.

Knife detectors? That's amazing. I didn't think such a thing existed. At least that means we won't all be randomly stopped and searched for carrying metal items onto the tube.
 
Well... as a matter of routine whenever working in Soho I'll usually pop into Oddbins on the way to Oxford Circus and take advantage of their DAB beer deal, then drink one on the tube, then another on the train, and maybe even another on if it's late and the journey is longer than normal.

I very much doubt this new rule is going to stop me. Sod off Boris.

However, leery drunks who swig from bottles spirits and smell of piss - fuck them off!

And the main development seems to have been avoided here - knife detectors and scanners. Fuck yes.

Can we have minimum sentences of 2 or 3 years for knife carriers, and 5 years for gunmen?

Fucking hope so. In this Bozza has my support.

Didn't Boris Johnson vote against five year mandatory sentences for illegal firearm possession? I'd like to know why - hopefully because he thought it should be longer.
 
Didn't Boris Johnson vote against five year mandatory sentences for illegal firearm possession? I'd like to know why - hopefully because he thought it should be longer.

Maybe he believed that such a measure might make it more likely that armed criminals would use their weapons.
 
I actually thought that you weren't supposed to drink on London buses, though - I have certainly seen, on several occasions, bus drivers refuse to let people on board with open drinks, but perhaps they were just making it up as they go along.
I don't think you're allowed to drink anything, alcoholic or not, on the bus for reasons of mess. But if you're subtle and well behaved I don't think you ever get told off.

Anyway, any sensible and civilised person will agree that the tube drinking ban is a complete nonsense. I have every intention of ignoring it and may even step up my on-tube drinking levels in protest.
Yes. I haven't had a beer on the tube for ages, but this does make me want to buy a 6 pack and go visit north London. :D
 
If Boris Johnson must have his name abbreviated, could it not be BoJo or even PK's Bozza. Let it be Bozo, because he is one.

It looks to me as if his advisors and puppeteers want him to be seen 'hitting the ground running' which is quite an appropriate metaphor for one who has been parachuted into London. He will be seen doing similar things to Bloomberg in New York. Evidence of criminal presence will be pushed off the streets and out of the public eye and into the dark corners where the poor live.

Boris will be like George Bush, just a figurehead controlled by political backroom boys this time at Conservative Central Office. Cameron will want to make as much out of Boris as possible, along with local authorities now controlled by the Tories. Watch out for parallel initiatives happening in London and Tory local authorities.

Crime will be top of the agenda at the next election.
 
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