Boris's ban on alcohol on London Transport (with poll)

[d.a.s.h]

Clearly you dont live in brixton .

Well er true enough! Mind I seem to recall as a youth that practically no public transport journey greater than half an hour could be undertaken without someone having the necessary supplies i.e. 4-8 cans of Hofmeister in a placky bag.

 

[Brainaddict]

oh god...

Link or source please?

It was in a beeb story about how CCTV doesn't work:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7384843.stm

 

[story]

It was in a beeb story about how CCTV doesn't work:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7384843.stm

thank you

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I don't think there is much to fear from a CCTV camera. The nearest one to where I live is hardly ever loaded. I think they only put the bullets in at the weekend. Even if you see a flash and hear a bang you know you are OK because they have missed you.

 

[rutabowa]

or a brown paper bag?

that's a good look, whenever i see someone with a brown paper bagged can i think "there is somone who is serious"

 

[bluestreak]

Lovely society we live in these days isn't it? Some top police officer was mouthing off today about how we should learn to fear CCTV cameras. Great.

 

[Lo Siento.]

 

[untethered]

Hopefully this will be the first step towards a decency revolution in London. It's a small step, but it could mark the beginning of the end for people who think they should be able to dress, speak and act as they please in public without any regard for their fellow citizens.

Mr Johnson made encouraging noises about "zero tolerance" during his campaign. We shall see whether he has the courage and imagination to put our money where his mouth is.

 

[El Jefe]

it could mark the beginning of the end for people who think they should be able to dress, speak and act as they please in public without any regard for their fellow citizens.

You think the way we speak and DRESS should be regulated?

 

[teuchter]

There are occasional bans on public drinking, on a local council basis, sometimes with time restrictions. Otherwise, there are no restrictions. All public transport is fine. Nearly all commuter and intercity trains have alcohol for sale, wether from the buffet car or the little trolley that gets wheeled down the aisle.

You aren't allowed to drink on the streets in central Glasgow. If you are carrying an open bottle or can the police can take it off you.

When I first came down to London I was well impressed with the fact that you could wander about at will with a drink in hand.

I actually thought that you weren't supposed to drink on London buses, though - I have certainly seen, on several occasions, bus drivers refuse to let people on board with open drinks, but perhaps they were just making it up as they go along.

Anyway, any sensible and civilised person will agree that the tube drinking ban is a complete nonsense. I have every intention of ignoring it and may even step up my on-tube drinking levels in protest.

 

[May Kasahara]

You think the way we speak and DRESS should be regulated?

Yes. Shorts may be suitable for the promenade, but not for every day life

 

[teuchter]

Hopefully this will be the first step towards a decency revolution in London. It's a small step, but it could mark the beginning of the end for people who think they should be able to dress, speak and act as they please in public without any regard for their fellow citizens.

Mr Johnson made encouraging noises about "zero tolerance" during his campaign. We shall see whether he has the courage and imagination to put our money where his mouth is.

Can you draft a London Dress Code Policy for our amusement, please?

 

[untethered]

Yes. Shorts may be suitable for the promenade, but not for every day life

No. They're suitable for the sports field but not the promenade.

Ditto vests, polo shirts, football shirts, etc.

 

[May Kasahara]

There's no hope for me

 

[untethered]

There's no hope for me

It just goes to show what happens when society takes a laissez-faire approach rather than giving appropriate guidance.

 

[Brainaddict]

It seems to be up to bus drivers whether to let people on with drinks or not. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes not. I wonder about the enforcement of this on the tube though. Can't see drivers stopping a whole train and calling the cops just because someone has opened a can of beer.

 

[editor]

Hopefully this will be the first step towards a decency revolution in London. It's a small step, but it could mark the beginning of the end for people who think they should be able to dress, speak and act as they please in public without any regard for their fellow citizens.

Perhaps you could share some of your suggested sartorial restrictions with us all?

Will there be an minimum skirt length? Enforced hat wearing?

 

[untethered]

It seems to be up to bus drivers whether to let people on with drinks or not. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes not. I wonder about the enforcement of this on the tube though. Can't see drivers stopping a whole train and calling the cops just because someone has opened a can of beer.

They wouldn't under normal circumstances. It would be enforced by PCSOs on routine patrols on the trains and stations.

 

[DotCommunist]

It seems to be up to bus drivers whether to let people on with drinks or not. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes not. I wonder about the enforcement of this on the tube though. Can't see drivers stopping a whole train and calling the cops just because someone has opened a can of beer.

Most of the buses round here have no food/no alcahol/no smoking signs.


on the top deck, these signs are roundly ignored.


Anyway who's going to enforce this tomfoolery?

 

[Brainaddict]

They wouldn't under normal circumstances. It would be enforced by PCSOs on routine patrols on the trains and stations.

I can see people getting caught in the stations, but you see officers actually in your train carriage about once in a blue moon. So as well as being a crap policy, it will be unenforceable. Which is good if you think it's a crap policy, but makes Boris even more of a cock.

 

[DotCommunist]

They wouldn't under normal circumstances. It would be enforced by PCSOs on routine patrols on the trains and stations.

so waste police time on harmless but deemed by Boris to be bad activity?


fuck me thats stupid

 

[Fruitloop]

Perhaps you could share some of your suggested sartorial restrictions with us all?

Will there be an minimum skirt length? Enforced hat wearing?

They could arrest women who were improperly covered. I hear that's all the rage these days.

 

[untethered]

Can you draft a London Dress Code Policy for our amusement, please?

Perhaps you could share some of your suggested sartorial restrictions with us all?

Will there be an minimum skirt length? Enforced hat wearing?

I think it would be especially useful now that the warmer weather is with us and the likelihood of indecent dress or stylistic errors in the name of comfort is all the greater.

That said, in one of those peculiar moments of life yesterday I noticed a young man in the "gangster/hoodie" mode that was wearing elegant black leather gloves despite the heat, and thought that the routine wearing of gloves in public was a worthwhile convention that has sadly passed.

 

[editor]

I can see people getting caught in the stations, but you see officers actually in your train carriage about once in a blue moon. So as well as being a crap policy, it will be unenforceable. Which is good if you think it's a crap policy, but makes Boris even more of a cock.

Perhaps people will be encouraged to pull the emergency cord if they see ruthless law breaker eyeing up a can of Carling in their bag?

Boris! Protect us from people enjoying a quiet can on the tube!

I think it would be especially useful now that the warmer weather is with us and the likelihood of indecent dress or stylistic errors in the name of comfort is all the greater.

You're just trolling now.

But in the name of sartorial guidance, could you post up some pictures of your attire for us to learn from?

 

[untethered]

They could arrest women who were improperly covered. I hear that's all the rage these days.

And men. Nothing sexist about it.

 

[DotCommunist]

I think it would be especially useful now that the warmer weather is with us and the likelihood of indecent dress or stylistic errors in the name of comfort is all the greater.

That said, in one of those peculiar moments of life yesterday I noticed a young man in the "gangster/hoodie" mode that was wearing elegant black leather gloves despite the heat, and thought that the routine wearing of gloves in public was a worthwhile convention that has sadly passed.

I hate to break it to you Untetered but the fellow wearing those gloves was probably doing so in order that he leaves no fingerprints.

 

[ymu]

I know he can be a bit pompous so maybe it's hard to tell, but I think there was intentional humour in that untethered post you're quoting. I hope so anyway - I'd hate to think such a comedic talent was unaware of its own genius.

 

[untethered]

I hate to break it to you Untetered but the fellow wearing those gloves was probably doing so in order that he leaves no fingerprints.

Well he didn't seem to be causing any trouble, but there again Mrs Untethered and I had better things to do than follow him around for the rest of the afternoon.

Perhaps he was on his way to do a "job". Still, I couldn't fault his gloves.

 

[Fruitloop]

I have flip-flops on at work. Take that, social conformity!

 

[untethered]

But in the name of sartorial guidance, could you post up some pictures of your attire for us to learn from?

The idea is a perfectly reasonable one. Guidelines for style, laws for decency.

Yesterday saw me in a white long-sleeved Oxford shirt, brown Derby shoes, stone chinos and a navy v-necked sweater later in the day. Topped off with a Panama hat, of course.

Perfectly comfortable, entirely practical, timelessly elegant and quite decent.

I notice that Dan Cruickshank has been blazing a trail with his cravat in Adventures in Architecture on the BBC. I wonder if they will undergo a revival.