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Boris's ban on alcohol on London Transport (with poll)

What do you think of Boris's proposed ban on drinking on public transport?

  • Yes! Ban! Ban! Ban! I'm 100% for the ban

    Votes: 20 8.8%

  • Not bothered but think it's probably a good idea

    Votes: 29 12.8%

  • Couldn't give a monkey's chuffnut either way

    Votes: 17 7.5%

  • Not a big deal but I'm against the ban

    Votes: 50 22.0%

  • It's a fucking stupid idea. 100% against

    Votes: 108 47.6%

  • My tofu underpants live inside a rubber ball and talk Cantonese

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Total voters
    227
Crispy said:
I always reuse water bottles myself. Can't remember when I bought this one. February sometime?
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A study showed that you are at risk of loads of nasty shit if you reuse water bottles.

I think the study was commissioned by Evian.
 
The question of alcoholism is a bit of a red herring IMO.

Certainly there are some people who can't wait to have a drink and that's clearly a problem, but the overwhelming majority of people having a drink on public transport aren't doing so because they're alcoholics - they crack open a can because they fancy a beer. They're not drunk, and not causing any more hassle than they would be drinking from a can of coke.
 
spring-peeper said:
How about I'm a herion addict? Am I allowed to shoot up on your tubes? I'm not harming anyone else that way.

Suggesting that the ban should be repelled on the basis of it infridges on the rights of an addict is absurd.
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I'm not talking about rights, I'm talking about not legislating to prevent reasonable people from doing reasonable things.

If in doubt, leave people alone.
 
what seems to be going on here is that a great many people think that anything not expressly permitted should not be done.

Thats not how it works.
 
ajdown said:
Some people consider talking loudly on a mobile phone on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider eating smelly food on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider reading big newspapers on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider playing music out loud on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider taking up more than one seat with bags etc on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider dropping litter on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

Some people consider drinking alcohol on a bus/tube to be annoying and antisocial, others (especially those that do it) don't care.

What makes you choose some things to be acceptable, and others not to be? The most compelling facts, figures, statistics, whatever in the world probably wouldn't make you change your mind if you really cannot see how something might affect or upset other people.
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What is at issue is not what some people consider to be antisocial (curly hair and thick lips?), but whether they are right to do so. Does the inconvenience to someone who doesn't like to look at others drinking justify interfering in others freedom sufficiently to prohibit it? I think not, and furthermore think that it is a dangerous road to go down, since there is hardly any activity that some nutcase or other might not take exception to.
 
editor said:
Thank heavens Boris is getting stuck into the really important issues!

Apparently, we can expect drinking on the tube (and, presumably buses) to be banned within a few days.

So there goes one of life's harmless little pleasures.
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It's better than Ken siphoning off cash to his cronies.

I'm still laughing that the biggest cunt in England was kicked out - and I reckon it had more to do with the wanker himself than general dislike of Labour.
 
Kenny Vermouth said:
I'm still laughing that the biggest cunt in England was kicked out - and I reckon it had more to do with the wanker himself than general dislike of Labour.
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Interesting. Could you put some figures on that? How did he do compared to Labour's vote nationally?
 
DotCommunist said:
what seems to be going on here is that a great many people think that anything not expressly permitted should not be done.

Thats not how it works.
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I've no idea how you come to that conclusion. This discussion is quite clearly about a new prohibition, not about a new list of sanctioned activities to which the public must confine themselves.
 
ymu said:
Interesting. Could you put some figures on that? How did he do compared to Labour's vote nationally?
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You miss the point.

It wasn't a comparison of Labour votes in London to Labour votes elsewhere.

It was a suggestion that his loss was more to do with him personally than the general trend against London.

Still, I'm sure the figures you are interested are available.
 
i understand what boris is trying to do here, i'm not 100% in favour of the ban as i like a drink on the tube also. if it makes a step towards his plan to reduce anti-social behaviour then it's a small sacrifice to make. plenty of countries in europe already operate bans on drinking in public places as well, i think this works quite well in general.
 
dtb said:
i understand what boris is trying to do here, i'm not 100% in favour of the ban as i like a drink on the tube also. if it makes a step towards his plan to reduce anti-social behaviour then it's a small sacrifice to make. plenty of countries in europe already operate bans on drinking in public places as well, i think this works quite well in general.
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I think you're spot on.

I have to admit, I never realised there were so many people who like boozing on the tube. Maybe they should start their own party and run for the mayoralty in 2012.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Is that because they mind their own business and don't bother anybody else, so you haven't noticed them?
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No, I notice them all right. They are pretty few and far between, but they usually leave their cans behind so you can't fail to notice them even after they've gone.
 
STFC said:
No, I notice them all right. They are pretty few and far between, but they usually leave their cans behind so you can't fail to notice them even after they've gone.
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Really? You know that the majority of people who drink on the Tube leave litter? How do you know this?
 
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