tube's a bit grimy for drinking on anyway, overland you have the sun and a view. i assume the ban doesn't extend to nightbuses? that woudl be madness
Boris's ban on alcohol on London Transport (with poll)
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Not sure, but I would have thought that as the department of transport has responsibility for this and not tfl then it would need central government leglislation and that would somehow have to not apply to longer journeys?
untethered
For industry & decency
I consider myself duly damned with faint praise.
What are you expecting? An exhortation to "decent" food? All-British menus? Homosexualist couples turned away at the door? Grace to be said before every sitting?
Actually, one of those ideas isn't bad.
Breaking up the big chains would be good, too.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
The Guardian is currently stating the postion as this:
so anyone:
(a) drinking alcohol, or
(b) carrying open(ed) alcohol containers
I suppose this only leaves (as acceptable) carrying unopened alcohol containers - I know how I'm going to feel the first time a train is delayed as we wait for the police because a drunk won't get off. Just seems to be making more work for the police and delaying punters.
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
you've never used the central line to epping then - or the northbound met for that matter.
editor
hiraethified
If it's not infringing on anyone's right to enjoy a peaceful journey, I can't think of a single reason why not. Can you?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Screw tops drinks FTW!
untethered
For industry & decency
Doesn't it strike you as uncouth?
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Nice to see the corporate message linking 'fun' and alcohol is still impressing the younger generations.
Lets 'celebrate' with Champagne?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
sadly it counts as open once the seal is bust. thats what the (ed) bit is sayin
As I said, many things strike me as 'uncouth'. None of them are proper matters for legislation.
Even you must be able to see that you can't legislate society to fit a subjective notion of niceness?
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
You're drinking it, and your breath smells. Go to the corner of the class and put the hat on.
untethered
For industry & decency
Of course you can. You're watching it happen right here in London, right now.
Let's hope it will be the first of many such successes.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
FFS
So I take my 80 year old single malt to a mates, we have 2 glasses each and I take it home again and I'm now a criminal
Even Singapore isn't that anal.No, I think the Mayor of London would be within his rights to ban drinking on London Overground trains. He certainly has some power over that franchise.
I'm sure he has no power to enforce a ban on drinking on trains operated by other franchisees, which would be a matter for the DfT and/or Network Rail. Nor should he, since it would be highly unreasonable for the Mayor of London to be able to ban drinking on trains serving parts of the UK many miles from London!
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
It's not a criminal offence. For a year at least, apparently.FFS
So I take my 80 year old single malt to a mates, we have 2 glasses each and I take it home again and I'm now a criminal
Apart from that . . .
Thing is, I know you're trolling so I don't know why I'm bothering, but who gets to decide what is uncouth and what isn't?
Do you really believe a consensus is possible? And that even if a majority considered an activity uncouth, that should pass into law?
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
and ban people using both armrests, people with unfeasibly large rucksacks, with offensive fashion sense, with smelly feet, with colds, with unwashed hair, with irritating laughs, ones that fart, and anyone reading Harry Potter. Then I'd be happy.
Of course, just as you can't walk along the street completely nude, verbally abusing passing pedestrians. But, I suppose, have it your way: no standards.
er. wierd.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
and ban people using both armrests, people with unfeasibly large rucksacks, with offensive fashion sense, with smelly feet, with colds, with unwashed hair, with irritating laughs, ones that fart, and anyone reading Harry Potter. Then I'd be happy.
You should have stood for mayor, you'd have hammed BoJo
untethered
For industry & decency
Our elected representatives in this case.
I'm reluctant to use the law to enforce something that should just be a widely-observed standard of public behaviour. The problem in this country is that it's so divided in its culture that a large section of the population thinks nothing of greatly offending everyone else and rails against any form of opposition, whether it's encouragement, argument or enforcement.
Somehow, standards have to be maintained. It's sad that the law has to reach this far to do it, but it seems necessary right now.
Well, it wouldn't be infringing on your physical person or whatever nonsensical excuse you might use to escape the fact that we share the same public space in society and common decency is an issue and sometimes a legal one.
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
You should have stood for mayor, you'd have hammed BoJo
damn - i missed off disabled people!!
untethered
For industry & decency
The problem is that decency is no longer common. If it were, we wouldn't need these laws.
if you want to strip naked and insult people it's your lookout, i just think it's fucked up! i'm surprised you haven't been arrested, there are criminal laws on exposing yourself, and shouting insults could be construed as assault.
So we're agreed that your conception of decency isn't 'common'. In which case, why should it be enforced? What privileges your version ahead of another?
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
. oops - misread post
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