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BNP national demo in Keighley

Taxamo Welf said:
Donna i don't really know you but you are being incredibly tiresome this matter is settled please please leave it or add something constructive.
Well hang on, TW, I thought it was too until hibee decided otherwise.

Taxamo Welf said:
Do YOU think the keighley situation is true or untrue?
Genuinely? I haven't a bleedin' clue.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
No he didn't h, he asked you to clarify what you were saying.

He put words into my mouth implying I was a racist. Which is no better than I expect from him.
 
What the fuck are you on about? He asked if I thought paedophila was either an asian thing or a muslim thing, which had the dual function of a) smearing me and b) avoiding the question.

As a result, everyone rightly came down on him like a ton of bricks.

I like you Donna, but sometimes you go at entirely the wrong targets, and now is such a time.
 
hibee said:
What the fuck are you on about? He asked if I thought paedophila was an asian thing or a muslim thing,
Well yes, because he'd referred specifically to that and been quarrelled with for it. Come on man, follow the posts, I've set it all out above.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Well yes, because he'd referred specifically to that and been quarrelled with for it. Come on man, follow the posts, I've set it all out above.

Donna, I see no value in this but all I asked him to do was provide some evidence for what he said (or more likely cut and pasted) that reports of asian paedo gangs were a "myth". He made the assertion, it was fair enough to ask him to back it up. He then went off on a tangent by playing the race card.

If your intention was to stop people bullying rebel you picked entirely the wrong occasion, me and taxamo are hardly the heavy mob and he brought this one on himself.
 
hibee said:
Donna, I see no value in this but all I asked him to do was provide some evidence for what he said (or more likely cut and pasted) that reports of asian paedo gangs were a "myth". He made the assertion, it was fair enough to ask him to back it up. He then went off on a tangent by playing the race card.
But I do not think that he did: he mentioned that other people were and, having referred to a "myth" of that nature, was asked to prove its falsehood. My sympathies are not with those who then flew off the handle.
 
Donna. There is a lot of evidence out there that these gangs exist. The ball was in his court to back up his claims they don't. Instead he implied the people asking him to justify his position were racist.

And intelligent man like you really should know better than to defend a liar like that.
 
Protest on the 5th!

:eek:

Can't really comprehend this bloody thread!!! For god's sake if you must keep on wittering on between yourselves then fine but at least actually do something and be in Keighley to oppose the BNP on the 5th. Unite has cancelled it's conference and called a national mobilisation. A strong, unopposed BNP 'event' will only strengthen then in the run up to the elections next year: something West Yorkshire can really do without.
 
Unity!

Well said that man. There's also an anti-racist concert at Victoria Hall, Keighley on the 29th.
 
i'm not gping anywhere to deny the truth, and thats what the SWP (whatever front) are hellbent on doing.

That will really help the situation - a big bunch of outsiders telling them there is no spoon.

And don't give this Oppose SHIT. Oppos schmose. There will be a speech or ten by some twat and then its home for tea.
 
hibee said:
No it'a not. He tried to make out anyone who was disagreeing with him was implying paedophelia was linked to Islam, when all myself and taxamo were asking him to to do was back up his assertions.

Did'nt Mohammed have a 9yr old wife who had his children?.Also its not uncommon for someone in some parts of the far east to have a 10 yr old wife.
 
Yer what?

Taxamo Welf said:
That will really help the situation - a big bunch of outsiders telling them there is no spoon.



There fuckin' is-I ate me Weetabix with one only this morning!
 
hibee said:
They got spoons in your b+b then?

The landlady'll think you want hot water in the bath next.



I've been back since Sunday. Just been trying to psyche myself up for posting again.
 
CUMBRIANDRAGON said:
Did'nt Mohammed have a 9yr old wife who had his children?.Also its not uncommon for someone in some parts of the far east to have a 10 yr old wife.

Didn't jerry Lee Lewis marry someone in their early teens which apparntly was not/is not uncommon in the Southern States of America, weren't the sons and daughters of the Royal also married at a similar age in medieval times?? But don't tell me that this explains grooming children into prostitution in either USA or medieval England.
 
Taxamo Welf said:
i'm not going anywhere to deny the truth, and thats what the SWP (whatever front) are hellbent on doing.

Give it a fucking rest Taxamo... the SWP aren't the only people mobilising for the 5th. I'm from that part of the Bradford area, and I know a lot of people who don't want the fash marching through their town, and will do whatever it takes to stop them.... paedophiles or none.

This demonstration was being built for way before UAF decided to cancel their conference. There is a massive problem with fascism in Leeds and Bradford, and to try and claim that mobilising against the BNP is simply a case of 'denying the truth' is sickening nonsense. How many times have you had to deal with fascists harassing you when your in the street, or vicitimising your entire community for the actions of a few?

So lets say yes, there is a paedophile ring operating... obviously it needs closing down and being dealt with. That doesn't alter the fact that this is likely to be the biggest fascist march thats happened in ten years, and there has to be opposition to it.
 
red_hippy said:
So lets say yes, there is a paedophile ring operating... obviously it needs closing down and being dealt with. That doesn't alter the fact that this is likely to be the biggest fascist march thats happened in ten years, and there has to be opposition to it.
No, let's not 'say'. Is it happening?
 
Taxamo Welf said:
Do YOU think the keighley situation is true or untrue?

Ever been to Keighley?

Or Bradford, for that matter?

I doubt it, given your tender years and public school upbringing.

Makes me wonder what your involvement in this thread is all about TBH.

When I lived up there, the prostitute industry had nothing to do with the Pakistani businesses as far as I know (though I despise the kind of men who pay for sex and wasn't exactly asking around, my understanding was that it was controlled by British madams and enforced by the white gangsters).

Rumours of a paedophile ring involving the Asians started around the same time as the riots - if you ask me it's a load of old bollocks started by the NF to stir things up, but there we go.

Anyway - if a load of nazi scum die alongside a load of genuine paedophiles - who is really going to care anyway?

Fill up a truck and stick them in an unmarked hole under a motorway somewhere, fuck the lot of them.
 
butchersapron said:
No, let's not 'say'. Is it happening?

I dont know in detail, all I know is that there's been alot of fash leaflets about it given out in Keighley rumoring it, and there have been some cases reported by searchlight. Certainly nobody in the area that I know seems to think it is more widespread than child abuse in any other town in the country.

But as I pointed out already, its fucking nuts for anyone who claims to be an anti-fascist not to oppose the BNP in this case, to say that activists should deal with child abuse as an alternative to fighting off the BNP is agreeing with their propaganda and allowing them to further sink their teeth into a town where Griffin got the best part of 8,000 votes and asian people are getting their heads kicked in for walking in the street.

Its nice and easy for people who don't have a clue how strong the fascists are in West Yorkshire to somehow seperate the issues and say 'oh well, lets investigate what the BNP and searchlight are claiming... then we can deal with the fact that the fascists are ripping the town apart later'
 
Taxamo Welf said:
And don't give this Oppose SHIT. Oppos schmose. There will be a speech or ten by some twat and then its home for tea.

And I suppose you come face to face with fascists all the time do you Taxamo? ...do you bollocks, come up to Leeds or Bradford and have a drink in one of the pubs thats full of nazi scum, they'd chew you up and spit you out before the door could hit you on the arse.
 
Well, there's a shed load of evidence that it is happening.

That aside, and looking at this tactically you're going to give them exactly what they want, where they want it and with who they want it. Your agendas co-incide here.

Yes, please accuse posters who doesn't agree with you of arm-chair sitting as well. That's always good.
 
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