That's irrelevant
blokes, would you be willing to accept restrictions on your behaviour...
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbh, though, it's all a good man can do. Good men can't modify their own behaviour in a way that stops bad men from doing bad things. All they can do is make sure they are not alarming others unnecessarily.
Other than a general 'we should look out for each other more', which I would always say, what is there?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
A good man with a gun...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I don't think anyone is debating that men shouldn't modify their behavior whilst walking down the street at night.
I do
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't think it is. There comes a point on the danger scale where it's really not appropriate to chivalrously offer to walk a stranger home for their own good. And that slides down the scale to a point where it's only really you that is the potential threat, so you need to stop being it.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
You do what?
I'm confused by this thread. There seem to be several issues jammed into one.
Right. So I live somewhere where I am concerned for the safety of my female housemates when they walk home after dark. Where someone was recently violently attacked in the park opposite. Etc etc. So it's still better for me to disappear off into the distance deliberately rather than maintain the distance that I was at anyway?
And I'm the potential danger? Wtf?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes I know!
Look, I'm several feet behind this person. Walking at roughly the same pace. Somewhere that isn't particularly safe and is also frequented by kerb crawlers etc. So the safest thing for me to do is ensure I disappear entirely?
That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense, the priorities are completely back to front
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't want to second-guess what women posting here will say, but if I were several feet behind a woman on a street at night with nobody or hardly anyone else around, I would want to change that situation as soon as I could. By crossing over or overtaking. Given that I walk quickly normally, slowing down would be a bit creepy too, I think. (Although if she were walking very quickly, I might let her ease away.)
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i normally find women walking on the same side of the road i live on as i'm approaching where i live, when it would look really weird crossing the road from behind them and crossing back in front of them
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
oh bloody hell. So you use your initiative. Fuck me, we're talking general principles here.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yes. i use my initiative. i hide in a front garden till they're out of sight.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Like maybe pop into a front garden on the other side of the road and hide until the coast is clear.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
worrying 
What? I'm saying nothing of the sort!
I'm saying that some of the roads near me where a lone woman and I are walking, regardless of how close I am, would be measurably less safe for that woman if I were to disappear. It'd probably be less safe for me if she did the same to be honest.
You're talking about perception of danger. I'm talking about the reality of it. Someone had their nose bitten off opposite my house the other week. A man was raped at knife point last year within a mile.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I'm not sure this is the right thread for joking about.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Damnation, I've already changed my tagline today - I'll use that next time.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
We already accept restrictions on our behaviour to make people feel more comfortable in other ways, so why not this?
We queue in an accepting stupor at an airport to be all but accused of potential terrorism, for example. How is being implicitly accused of child molestation worse than being implicitly accused of blowing people to bits?
We queue in an accepting stupor at an airport to be all but accused of potential terrorism, for example. How is being implicitly accused of child molestation worse than being implicitly accused of blowing people to bits?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
For those of us who work with children, it has worrying implications. Last week, I felt uncomfortable about hugging back children who were upset at me leaving my job. There is nothing wrong with comforting an upset child, but men have to be circumspect about doing so, at the child's expense. That surely isn't fair?
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