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Black Lives Matter demos and protests UK, 2020-2021

Thousands have been in Hyde Park all day at the protest. Inevitable for it to move to Whitehall, esp when there's nothing else to do and the pubs are shut.
 
It is unsurprising that the Met wouldn't be able to help themselves and would use provocative policing methods guaranteed to escalate an already tense situation. Let's be honest, the difference between here and America is in guns and militarisation, not biased policing or police attitudes toward protest.
 
It is unsurprising that the Met wouldn't be able to help themselves and would use provocative policing methods guaranteed to escalate an already tense situation. Let's be honest, the difference between here and America is in guns and militarisation, not biased policing or police attitudes toward protest.
Or indeed towards race
 
Wish we could get away from the big centralised protest mindset, especially with a pandemic going on. But even under normal circumstances the A-B stuff, or standing around in central, seems like a bad idea. Found out too late that there was a local one near me, think it should be the norm though - dispersed local stuff. Harder to crack down on, easier to keep moving, more accessible and closer to communities.
 
Green & Black Cross posting that kettle still ongoing at 00.21 in central London.

Talk of police using section 50 of the police reform act 2002 to demand people give their names and addresses before allowing them to leave. Which is a misuse of that power.
 
Protest in the time of coronavirus is giving a lot of people ammunition against the protesters. Some of these critics are decent (and I do completely get the spreading corona concerns), some are far from decent. The best I can do to defend the protesters is ask folk to consider the slight increased risk of coronavirus (many of the protesters do at least seem to be wearing masks) vs the window for (mainly black) protesters to speak out against the racism they face. :(
 
Protest in the time of coronavirus is giving a lot of people ammunition against the protesters. Some of these critics are decent (and I do completely get the spreading corona concerns), some are far from decent. The best I can do to defend the protesters is ask folk to consider the slight increased risk of coronavirus (many of the protesters do at least seem to be wearing masks) vs the window for (mainly black) protesters to speak out against the racism they face. :(

Suggest if they are concerned that they ask the police why they are kettling protesters during a global pandemic.
 
Thousands have been in Hyde Park all day at the protest. Inevitable for it to move to Whitehall, esp when there's nothing else to do and the pubs are shut.
I don't think that's why yesterday's protest gained momentum. Nothing else to do contributes to turn out for sure but the anger, that's caused by inequality and injustice not boredom. I think it belittles the BLM movement to suggest that if the pubs were open this wouldn't be happening. We weren't on lockdown when Mark Duggan was murdered.
 
I don't think that's why yesterday's protest gained momentum. Nothing else to do contributes to turn out for sure but the anger, that's caused by inequality and injustice not boredom. I think it belittles the BLM movement to suggest that if the pubs were open this wouldn't be happening. We weren't on lockdown when Mark Duggan was murdered.

Your misreading Brixton Hatter post.

Ive been to rallies in Hyde Park and usually ended up in nearby pub.

Brixton Hatter isnt belittling BLM.
 
Ive been avoiding large crowds due to inner London having a high death toll.

Im always keen on demos. In normal times I would go to a demo like this.

Seeing the photos today half of me thinks what about the pandemic? Other half is frustated that I can't go. I'm concerned that being in large group of people from across London who then disperse back to own neighbourhoods is one of the ways pandemic is spread.

Its not gone away.
 
I don't think this is a pub drinking crowd who have money to chuck at ££ pints or want to get drunk, some have lost employment too. My initial reaction was to be really stressed yesterday at the thought of them infecting family members and creating more suffering but they do largely appear to be wearing masks. This does have the potential to have been a terrible idea. Hopefully not.
 
of the people I know who went on recent demos one said everyone was wearing a mask and keeping a distance and the other said really not. Different days tho. Former was Saturday just gone, latter was yesterday.
 
O think if we were still (were we ever?) on a strict lockdown then there'd be more of a decision to make, but as schools and workplaces are open then I think the lockdown is to all intents and purposes over now anyway...

/ slight derail / chilango I dunno, I thought that as around my area it seems to be over, but actually I walked into city centre and got a train somewhere today and it was totally dead everywhere, so I think it actually is far from over in many ways. / slight derail over /
 
/ slight derail / chilango I dunno, I thought that as around my area it seems to be over, but actually I walked into city centre and got a train somewhere today and it was totally dead everywhere, so I think it actually is far from over in many ways. / slight derail over /

I hope so.

...but I think protest needs to remain on the table even under lockdown and (whilst those attending should include covid amongst their consideration for mutual care) we shouldn't allow concerns to delegitimate them. Cos you you can bet your bottom dollar people will try this.
 
Picture 1 in this set of images from Reuters from London protest yesterday shows a police with his hand round a protesters throat in strangulation pose- apparently on Downing St. Police number visible - U 3234. Picture 10 appears to show same police and protester.

I like how it's described as a protester and police officer clash.

e2a: actually moved from rolleyes to fuck this. This is not a clash and what the fuck with putting Black Lives Matter in quotes.
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An old pirate radio DJ im facebook friends has posted that "mare street has been smashed up"
now i always liked this DJ but since following him on facebook turns out he's a nationalist shitposting dick
can anyone confirm whats going on?
 
An old pirate radio DJ im facebook friends has posted that "mare street has been smashed up"
now i always liked this DJ but since following him on facebook turns out he's a nationalist shitposting dick
can anyone confirm whats going on?
When? Now? I live about a 10minute walk from Mare St and on a main route to there from S Newington police station. No police sirens, no police helicopter, nothing. I imagine if something was going on, it'd be a bit more visible/audible. (It's a long road but still...)
 
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