BBC - Owen Jones
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
At least the puppy wipes his own arse after shiting everywhere.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
"Toynbee, articul8 and all the rest".
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
i think that's pretty harsh on the andrex puppy. it knows not what it's doing.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It had only attained an i'm having a shit consciousness. It needs the party to come and clean that shit up.
He's an autolabourist prick whose response to criticism is "BUT THE TORIES."
Fuck him.
Why can I never articulate myself like this!
All I want to know is why he mentioned she was Muslim.
Reminds me of when ninjaboy of all people left a job after a day because the manager welcomed the first black member of the sales team by getting everyone to give her a round of applause.
The prick.
As cesare siad he reduced it to pure tokenism. Focus on her skills jot her faith.
Reminds me of when ninjaboy of all people left a job after a day because the manager welcomed the first black member of the sales team by getting everyone to give her a round of applause.
The prick.
As cesare siad he reduced it to pure tokenism. Focus on her skills jot her faith.
no one , just anonymous bitching on forums
Name ten great things about our Owen.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
He loves the 'trade union tops', so that tweet is unsurprising. I've never seen a single word directed against trade union structure - the enemies are "Tories and Liberals" (obviously) and "Blairites" (everything bad in Labour ever).
My favourite Owen Jones article was this one for The Sun.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3626754/.html
The Likely Lads and the Rag Trade display "the lives of real working-class folk" not very well/in careful stereotype.
xslavearcx
time for a nu-metal revival?
aye paving the way for attacks on the sun's kinda verbage as an "attack on working class culture...."
sihhi it does not stand for Council Housing Associated Vermin, that is utter bollocks. It comes from "charver", an ancient NE term (romany in origin IIRC) for anyone who was not afraid to go against the grain of what is deemed as socially acceptable or a bit of petty crime.
It's been used by people around here for years with no negative connotations. I can remember using it at first school to describe the kids who poked holes in your milk bottle tops ffs
It's been used by people around here for years with no negative connotations. I can remember using it at first school to describe the kids who poked holes in your milk bottle tops ffs
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
You are writing as if I said that, OWEN JONES said it. It's in quotes!
Sorry, I know you did not say it.
Even the BBC has a more accurate description
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northeast/series7/chavas.shtml
Even the BBC has a more accurate description
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northeast/series7/chavas.shtml
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
But the people that use it in a derogatory way about working class people aren't exactly interested in its etymology.sihhi it does not stand for Council Housing Associated Vermin, that is utter bollocks. It comes from "charver", an ancient NE term (romany in origin IIRC) for anyone who was not afraid to go against the grain of what is deemed as socially acceptable or a bit of petty crime.
It's been used by people around here for years with no negative connotations. I can remember using it at first school to describe the kids who poked holes in your milk bottle tops ffs
But why is perpetrating his made up definition instead of correcting people to it's true origin? It doesn't make sense to me.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's a different word.sihhi it does not stand for Council Housing Associated Vermin, that is utter bollocks. It comes from "charver", an ancient NE term (romany in origin IIRC) for anyone who was not afraid to go against the grain of what is deemed as socially acceptable or a bit of petty crime.
It's been used by people around here for years with no negative connotations. I can remember using it at first school to describe the kids who poked holes in your milk bottle tops ffs
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Because he doesn't get the linguistic leap from Romany to everyday slang; so he's tried to make it into an acronym instead?
Kushti.
Words evolve from other words, language is fluid. Sorry for patronising you, not my inteion, but the reassemble between chav and charv is far too close to say they're different words.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
When I was growing up a bit further north 'chav' was a word used for little pesky kids. Also used as a verb for stealing. 'Did you chav that?'.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Part of a review from Socialist History Society:
"At its best Chavs reads like The Road To Wigan Pier for modern Britain; and like Orwell, Jones is sometimes prone to sweeping generalisations. For instance, when Jones visits Ashington in Northum-berland we are told that if you ‘take away the heart of a community [by deindustrialisation] it will wilt and begin to die’. Indeed, a local resident confirms that ‘the community just disintegrated’. However, Jones also believes that ‘there’s a real community spirit in the air’. Whilst these two statements might not be contradictory, the book does sometimes feel like it is trying to make two opposite points at once. For instance, Jones mocks the middle class obsession with teenage pregnan-cies, but also admits that ‘Britain has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in Western Europe. It is also impossible to deny the class dimension of this issue’.
... unlike Orwell, the author’s ambiguous class position is never fully scrutinised. For instance, in a passage about the middle class complexion of Parliament, Jones neglects to mention his own former role as a parliamentary researcher."
My family is from Ashington, I worked there, I know it very well. I am even a member of the Fell Em Doon club... do I really want to read further than that or will I burst a blood vessel?
Actually there is a massive sense of community in Ashington, no one talks to the police or goes to them for help. Everything is sorted within the community; it's a shit hole but if you're known there it is one of the greatest places you could live. So long as you don't upset the Purvis family.
I never knew about the chaval thing btw, made a mental note of that.
Actually there is a massive sense of community in Ashington, no one talks to the police or goes to them for help. Everything is sorted within the community; it's a shit hole but if you're known there it is one of the greatest places you could live. So long as you don't upset the Purvis family.
I never knew about the chaval thing btw, made a mental note of that.
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