BBC - Owen Jones
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The39thStep
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Vote Labour Vote Owen
Britain's foremost Angry Young Man.
lol.
lol.
SpineyNorman
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I quite like him tbh. Unlike Laurie Penny & co I think he has a genuine commitment to the politics, it's not just a fashion statement. And unlike them he does talk about class.
Although I disagree with him on some pretty important issues (not least the Labour Party) I reckon the media is better for having Owen Jones in it. I think it's worse for having Laurie Penny in it, she makes the left look fucking stupid.
Also, when I asked him to speak at a PD meeting he laughed - and stopped around for a chat and he's a nice fella - so that may be clouding my judgement a little bit. But I reckon Penny would have made out I was victimising female writers or being a homophobe or summat.
Although I disagree with him on some pretty important issues (not least the Labour Party) I reckon the media is better for having Owen Jones in it. I think it's worse for having Laurie Penny in it, she makes the left look fucking stupid.
Also, when I asked him to speak at a PD meeting he laughed - and stopped around for a chat and he's a nice fella - so that may be clouding my judgement a little bit. But I reckon Penny would have made out I was victimising female writers or being a homophobe or summat.
Treacle Toes
Time
Lest we forget....
love detective
there's no love too small
yep completely agree about the differences in political commitment and substance between the two, jones also seems to have a genuine sense of humility about him and has far more self awareness
compare and contrast
Owen Jones
Laurie Penny
Treacle Toes
Time
Not a fair comparason IMO. Surely better to find a vid in which LP shares her political ideas? Sales pitches aren't known for being full of meaningful analysis and humility.
That is her 'politics.'
Treacle Toes
Time
So her promotion of that is all we need to know? Or is it more that she engages in that kind of promotion?
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
His tweet before going on Question Time shows he's well aware of that.
Owen Jones
OMG HE LOOKS 12 DOES HIS MUM KNOW HE'S UP THIS LATE WHY ISN'T HE DOING HIS PAPER ROUND << just anticipating the tweets later
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I think he plays up to the being young thing, else he would've opted for some designer stubble by now or at least asked the barber to stop giving him the haircut of a 12 year old boy.
Treacle Toes
Time
A lot of the criticism aimed at him uses his age/the fact he looks young as if it undermines his opinions. Very few of those who took this stance after bbcqt the other night actually engaged with or countered a single argument he made. I think that says a lot.
Treacle Toes
Time
Perhaps you have some ideas about how he should present himself?
How does a 'younger' person not be 'younger'?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Doesn't bother me to be honest, but I get the impression that he's deliberately cultivating a young look.
Treacle Toes
Time
Or maybe he just looks young?
If he opted for a suit or was partial to the 'hipster' style I can just imagine how much stick he'd get. I think his age is being used against him in a way that is unfair. What I dislike about that is that the narrative seems to be there is no place for young/er people in politics, especially those who look young and don't try to hide it.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Maybe.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
So if he looked older the politics he promotes (vote Labour, rebuild the party, focus on minority issues etc) would reasonate more? Fucking hell.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
He likes his Ben Sherman shirts, doesn't he?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Obviously. Or he wouldn't have bought them. Do you often buy clothes you don't like?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Er, what?
love detective
there's no love too small
She gives it her best shot here
this is (partly) the point of the comparison, she is empty, she has very little in the way of political ideas, let alone an ability or capacity to articulate them, yet somehow she has successfully anointed herself as the spokesperson for a new 'radical' generation
Riklet
procrastinación
the real, human face of the radical student youth, eyes blazing from laptop glare, and revolutionary zeal at the insult of the background 'norm' music growing ever stronger.
wow have to say i found it quite heartening watching that owen jones video, might scour youtube to catch the rest of it. good seeing these scumbags and complacent loonbins being challenged...
wow have to say i found it quite heartening watching that owen jones video, might scour youtube to catch the rest of it. good seeing these scumbags and complacent loonbins being challenged...
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