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Jones recalls that his father, a Militant supporter in the 1970s, held to the entryist idea of ensuring the election of a Labour government and then organising working people to make sure that government delivered. "I think that's the model," he says. How very un-New Labour. That said, after we talk, Jones texts me to make it clear he's not a Militant supporter or Trotskyist. Rather, he wants a Labour government in power that will pursue a radical political programme.
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I've only caught up with the full article quoted earlier on the thread:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/04/the-return-of-marxism

This might have been the formal rhetoric of the entryist Militant, but it hardly stopped there - and I doubt anyone actually thought it would be that simple (the famous "enabling act" wasn't taken at face value - by anyone other than the SWP etc...).

Engaging with Labour in a tactical or even broader strategic sense needn't mean buying into the idea of a mildly redistributive social democratic government in charge of capitalist economy, which I take it is what Owen wants here. It wasn't what Militant wanted either.
 
butchersapron said:
Seriously? Is that all you have left?

I think it's quite funny that a hardcore communist militant is moving rightwards (and with such career options opening up) at such a rate of knots (as predicted) and it mirrors something i've seen in other rhetorical communists locally. I'd quite like to know just how ashamed you are of yourself, or if, as you claim, that you're not ashamed at all and this is a political move on your part.
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Last time we had as speedy a trajectory, wasn't it moon23 and his shift from SP to Lib-Dem? :p
 
Hang on a second. I thought articul8 had essentially fantasist Labour left politics for quite a while now? I don't see that there's a further right turn in his current attitude. It's the sort of thing he's been saying for ages, isn't it?
 
treelover said:
Artic, why are you going to replicate what Union News is doing?
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It's not meant to be a replica - it's meant to give more concrete expression to inter-union solidarity between the Trade Union Co-ordinating Group affiliates - and it won't just be news, it will be campaign resources, policy briefings etc.
 
The furious denunciations of Articul8 would be a little less absurd if the people denouncing him had any credible alternative of their own to offer.
 
Nigel Irritable said:
Hang on a second. I thought articul8 had essentially fantasist Labour left politics for quite a while now? I don't see that there's a further right turn in his current attitude. It's the sort of thing he's been saying for ages, isn't it?
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I think it was because of his refusal to name the MP he is working for, coupled with his previous arse licking of Reeves and Umuna etc, made it possible that he was going to be working for someone a bit more moderate than McDonell.
 
JHE said:
The furious denunciations of Articul8 would be a little less absurd if the people denouncing him had any credible alternative of their own to offer.
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Who's denouncing him? No-one. All people are doing are reminding him of his (many) previously declared political positions.
 
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