BBC - Owen Jones

[ViolentPanda]

It was dying on its arse. I don't see what the fuss is about.

I remember the Millies making a similar argument to excuse their entryism into Labour.

 

[ViolentPanda]

So all you need is an influx of working class radicals into the Labour Party, determined to vote out these MPs, plus the massive redemocratisation of the Labour Party to allow that to happen. Perhaps you'll follow that up by mobilising an army of goblins and pixies to storm Westminster?

Pity that so many were driven out by Blairism, isn't it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

So, fuck all as it's nothing to do with you. And fuck all that doesn't mention labour. Why Not?

Are you in the teacher role on the the last 2?

Please do not mock Guru Arti.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Twigg would be a decent, good even, constitutional minister. He'd be disaster on anything around foreign affairs or public services.

He is a disaster full-stop. He doesn't exactly have a shining record for holding his own against other political heavyweights, and he's a typical machine politician - he bends before the prevailing wind.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What "extra-parliamentary struggle" are you referring to?

I suspect that it has occurred to some on the soft left that there are people out there who might be "brought on-side" if arti and his mate make the right noises at them, and that getting behind some of the "single-issue campaigns" that "the kids" engage in might buy them a voice.

Not that I'm cynical, mind.

 

[ViolentPanda]

How much?

Anything from £25,000 up to about £40,000.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am highly critical of the Labour party

Not really. You're highly critical of "things that articul8 doesn't like about the Labour party", which is a somewhat different thing to being highly critical of the party per se.

 

[ViolentPanda]

diane abbott.

Rachel Reeves.

 

[butchersapron]

That would make my year.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am highly critical of the Labour party

In the sense of "I whistle a happy tune", I suspect.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That would make my year.

But possibly not hers.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm proper looking forward to when you hit 100,000, I do you hope you'll start a special thread to mark the occasion.

There's no fun to that. Some damn Canadian already got there a couple of years ago.

 

[articul8]

Rachel Reeves.

No Although funnily enough I do know the SPAD to Rachel Reeves and he's a good bloke

 

[butchersapron]

They all are aren't they?

*vomits*

 

[articul8]

no there are some proper cunts too

 

[revol68]

Will the new series of The Thick of It feature an Adorno quoting shitbag?

 

[butchersapron]

no there are some proper cunts too

So, who are you working for?

 

[cesare]

Will the new series of The Thick of It feature an Adorno quoting shitbag?

 

[articul8]

I'll be working for a number of trade unions out of an MPs parliamentary office.

 

[butchersapron]

I'll be working for a number of trade unions out of an MPs parliamentary office.

Who you're too scared to mention because you know what it means.

 

[articul8]

what would it mean?

 

[butchersapron]

what would it mean?

Scorn and ridicule - and a further demonstration of your right wing careerist trajectory. Which is why you won't dare say who.

 

[articul8]

Not at all. As it goes he's as sound as MPs ever get. But I haven't even started the job yet!!

 

[butchersapron]

Not at all. As it goes he's as sound as MPs ever get. But I haven't even started yet!!

What on earth do you mean not at all? You don't get to decide that. And wtf does it matter if you've not even started yet? So proud and unafraid are you of your choice and what it means politically (as you've explicitly tired this to your politics) that you're ashamed to say who it is. You're even fucking up the fuck up.

 

[articul8]

explicitly tired? Even your subconscious is sectarian

 

[butchersapron]

Excuse the extra 'r' - the post should read:

What on earth do you mean not at all? You don't get to decide that. And wtf does it matter if you've not even started yet? So proud and unafraid are you of your choice and what it means politically (as you've explicitly tied this to your politics) that you're ashamed to say who it is. You're even fucking up the fuck up.

So, got any less ashamed of yourself and your politics in the last 5 minutes?

 

[articul8]

No, I've never been ashamed of myself or my politics and have no reason to be. You'll enjoy using you sleuthing skills - until you find out, then you'll be disappointed.

 

[butchersapron]

No, I've never been ashamed of myself or my politics and have no reason to be. You'll enjoy using you sleuthing skills - until you find out, then you'll be disappointed.

You're being pretty ashamed of yourself right now. I love the new politics - it's your little bubble secret. How did you get this job btw - where was it advertised?

 

[articul8]

What do you care?

 

[butchersapron]

Seriously? Is that all you have left?

I think it's quite funny that a hardcore communist militant is moving rightwards (and with such career options opening up) at such a rate of knots (as predicted) and it mirrors something i've seen in other rhetorical communists locally. I'd quite like to know just how ashamed you are of yourself, or if, as you claim, that you're not ashamed at all and this is a political move on your part.