BBC Eric Gill paedo statue attacked

[ItWillNeverWork]

Which other artists work should we destroy? Gaugin? Picasso? Should we never screen a Hitchcock again?

I applaud taking down statues that celebrate slave owners but destroying art because you don’t like the artist (and don’t get me wrong Gill was abhorrent) and we’re on a very slippery slope

It’s not simply that the artist was a wrongun. If the statue was of something innocuous like a tree then I doubt this would be an issue. It’s the fact that the statue itself is clearly intended as a sick joke by the ‘artist’. It’s basically saying “this is the shit I got away with and now I’m hiding in plain sight”.

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s not simply that the artist was a wrongun. If the statue was of something innocuous like a tree then I doubt this would be an issue. It’s the fact that the statue itself is clearly intended as a sick joke by the ‘artist’. It’s basically saying “this is the shit I got away with and now I’m hiding in plain sight”.

I think that's an opinion rather than a fact unless you have some letter or diary entry stating such. Do you have any of your actual evidence?

 

[bluescreen]

It’s not simply that the artist was a wrongun. If the statue was of something innocuous like a tree then I doubt this would be an issue. It’s the fact that the statue itself is clearly intended as a sick joke by the ‘artist’. It’s basically saying “this is the shit I got away with and now I’m hiding in plain sight”.

It's not obviously that or basically saying that. It allows that interpretation, though, which is why it was a target for hammer man and why it's made some people feel uneasy for years.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I think that's an opinion rather than a fact unless you have some letter or diary entry stating such. Do you have any of your actual evidence?

My opinions are facts, dammit

 

[Pickman's model]

My opinions are facts, dammit

Make it more personal, say your opinions are bollocks

 

[ouirdeaux]

to appease public sentiment 1.5 inches was removed from the penis of the smaller figure

Please let this be true.

 

[belboid]

I don't know and nor it seems do you what the criteria for the statue were, nor the influence the commissioners, the BBC, had on the project. You seem to me to be making assumptions you can't back up. For example you're saying yer man's predilections can be seen in his work. Maybe you could show some other examples from Gill and maybe one or two other artists to support this.

Wrong thread, the deliberately misinterpret posts one is https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-so-what-youre-saying-is-game.377197/

 

[8ball]

Wrong thread, the deliberately misinterpret posts one is https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-so-what-youre-saying-is-game.377197/

That’s just a joke thread about all the others.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Make it more personal, say your opinions are bollocks

If jimi saville had designed a logo for a new children’s hospital that depicted such an image, would you take that as being completely innocent too? Got to separate the ‘art’ from the ‘artist’, right?

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s not simply that the artist was a wrongun. If the statue was of something innocuous like a tree then I doubt this would be an issue. It’s the fact that the statue itself is clearly intended as a sick joke by the ‘artist’. It’s basically saying “this is the shit I got away with and now I’m hiding in plain sight”.

Sorry to revisit this but I think your opinion in this instance is unsustainable. This is not what he got away with, as his interest appears to have been heterosexual and bestial. So while yes he was a paedophile but not in a homosexual way (from a brief search). I think you're barking up the wrong tree here, and unpleasant as the statue may be I really don't think it's a haha and two fingers from him. Really not a fan of the piece, but it's not imo Gill saying here's what I've done for years

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Sorry to revisit this but I think your opinion in this instance is unsustainable. This is not what he got away with, as his interest appears to have been heterosexual and bestial. So while yes he was a paedophile but not in a homosexual way (from a brief search). I think you're barking up the wrong tree here, and unpleasant as the statue may be I really don't think it's a haha and two fingers from him

Oh come off it

 

[8ball]

If jimi saville had designed a logo for a new children’s hospital that depicted such an image, would you take that as being completely innocent too? Got to separate the ‘art’ from the ‘artist’, right?

Well, separating the art from the artist is definitely what you’ve done there.

If Rudolf Hess had happened to do Michelangelo’s David, what then, eh? EH?

 

[Yossarian]

"Who's worse - a dogfucking dead paedo sculptor or a QAnon weirdo?" is truly a question for our times.

 

[bluescreen]

If jimi saville had designed a logo for a new children’s hospital that depicted such an image, would you take that as being completely innocent too? Got to separate the ‘art’ from the ‘artist’, right?

This thing is not the same as that thing you just made up.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

"Who's worse - a dogfucking dead paedo sculptor or a QAnon weirdo?" is truly a question for our times.

Not mutually exclusive categories, I suspect

 

[8ball]

Not mutually exclusive categories, I suspect

I know we like to be unjudgmental towards the efforts of the slower children in the class, but I don’t think what this guy was doing counts as “sculpting”.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh come off it

Appeals like this are pitiful

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Appeals like this are pitiful

Seriously though, the only way Gill’s intentions with that statue could be made clearer was if there was a labrador mounting the fella’s head and an inscription at the bottom reading “Ha ha, I’m a big fat nonce, yours Eric”

 

[Pickman's model]

Wrong thread, the deliberately misinterpret posts one is https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-so-what-youre-saying-is-game.377197/

Until the 1930s Ariel usually depicted as female which shows how much you know about the subject.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I suppose this gives a whole new meaning to the phrase ‘dog grooming’

 

[Pickman's model]

Seriously though, the only way Gill’s intentions with that statue could be made clearer was if there was a labrador mounting the fella’s head and an inscription at the bottom reading “Ha ha, I’m a big fat nonce, yours Eric”

So you say. But it doesn't improve with repetition.

 

[8ball]

Until the 1930s Ariel usually depicted as female which shows how much you know about the subject.

I’m sure the Little Mermaid was way after that.

 

[equationgirl]

Please let this be true.

It is true, it's documented in books.

See 'London's Underground: the story of the tubr' page 146, for example.

 

[Pickman's model]

I’m sure the Little Mermaid was way after that.

The little mermaid is famously not ariel, and was unveiled in 1913

 

[belboid]

Until the 1930s Ariel usually depicted as female which shows how much you know about the subject.

If you bothered reading attentively, which I know you don't, you'd see I was specifically referring to Shakespearean Ariel, who is referred to in the text in the masculine.

 

[Dystopiary]

According to the Guardian, it was clean beforehand and the guy made it all grey and dirty.
Man arrested after allegedly damaging statue outside BBC Broadcasting House

 

[Elpenor]

More nonces hiding in plain sight at the BBC (Blokes Bumming Children). Good to know the license fee paid for this statue.

 

[8ball]

BBC (Blokes Bumming Children)

 

[krtek a houby]

More nonces hiding in plain sight at the BBC (Blokes Bumming Children). Good to know the license fee paid for this statue.

Tbf, there are thousands of workers (past and present) who did not enage in horrific sexual abuse, and plenty who wouldn't be able to name the offending artist.

 

[discokermit]

Which other artists work should we destroy? Gaugin? Picasso? Should we never screen a Hitchcock again?

I applaud taking down statues that celebrate slave owners but destroying art because you don’t like the artist (and don’t get me wrong Gill was abhorrent) and we’re on a very slippery slope

Nobody listens to gary glitter anymore. fuck the nonces and all their works.