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BBC Eric Gill paedo statue attacked

what parilement, the bbc , the british state or the royal family


the weird thing about this fuck wit is he more than likely thing he is a patriot and vote for brexit & Boris


sold you soul to a broken system did you not fella

sorry your afraid of needles


bet he has a flag pole in his garden like a champion dick head


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I disagree. The weirdest thing about this guy is that he hasn’t heard of chisels.

Say what you like about anarchists, but we’d have organised the equipment better.
 
what parilement, the bbc , the british state or the royal family


the weird thing about this fuck wit is he more than likely thing he is a patriot and vote for brexit & Boris


sold you soul to a broken system did you not fella

sorry your afraid of needles


bet he has a flag pole in his garden like a champion dick head


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That's as irrelevant as The Mail's 'exposés' of the Colston Topplers.
 
Thing is these are categorically different cases
Colston is a statue of a slaver, honouring the man
This is a statue by a child molester
I think thats a big difference
The fact this statue depicts a naked child with an adult behind blurs that distinction though

Does anyone know how many public sculptures of his there are?
There are a few. As I mentioned before, there are famously the Stations of the Cross in Westminster Cathedral. I had a row with someone once when I was arguing that a victim of child abuse might find it very hard to pray there and he was arguing of course one should always be able to separate the art from the artist.
(I'm not a Catholic, btw, but don't find it impossible to imagine how one might feel in that place.)
 
is it bad to hope its some right wing fuck with angry over the pulling down of a slave owners statues


think take that bbc " as he hits a pedo stataue with his hammer"

year in jail fella you voted for the tory party
 
Plod aren't going to get him down without an hydraulic platform, it would be dangerous both to them and him to go up his ladder to get him and they can hardly shoot him for it.
If he does inflict enough damage on it before they drag him off then I suspect it will just get quietly junked, fixing it will just be too much public fuss.
 
Plod aren't going to get him down without an hydraulic platform, it would be dangerous both to them and him to go up his ladder to get him and they can hardly shoot him for it.
If he does inflict enough damage on it before they drag him off then I suspect it will just get quietly junked, fixing it will just be too much public fuss.

Expect you’re right there. Guess some of it might depend on public reaction. There will be a lot of column inches of “debate”…
 
I'm conflicted on this. Gill was a moral monster but his work is amazing. I wouldn't want to see his legacy wiped entirely. BBC's Ariel though - always been a bit ho hum about that one. More important that people know about Gill's character, which they will now.
not if they get their news from the BBC website. They will be none the wiser this occured.
 
Eric Gill also provided two sculptures for 55 Broadway (St James park tube station), both of which are two naked figures depicting two of the four winds shown on the building.

But Jacob Epstein provided two sculptures, Night and Day, one of which prompted such outrage when it was unveiled in 1928 that the popular press of the day as 'promitive, ugly and indecent'. Day depicts a naked small boy with an older figure, and to appease public sentiment 1.5 inches was removed from the penis of the smaller figure.

There is no suggestion as best I can find through a quick Google that Epstein was of a similar predilection to Gill, but the number of controversial sculptures he did was significant.
 
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Oh, they knew. Eric Gills activities are well known.
How well known/widely known though?

And now much (genuinely!) better known will Gilll's disgusting behaviour become, when someone attacks the statue like this?

My gut reaction tends to be to hate the idea of statue-distruction, even when I fully understand the case for removing it from public display. And why such statues now makes many people correctly angry.

Remove the fucking statue sure, but conserve/retain it for research, I'd suggest.

If ever on display in a museum or archive (maybe just by photography?), make damned sure that properly explanatory panels (or photo-captions) are clearly seen.

I suspect this attack might (?) be counterproductive -- attempting to destroy it could make the BBC, and others, (such as 'war on woke' Tories! :mad: ) focus on the 'vandalism'. And that the publicity, more generally, will obscure the genuine anti-Gill case.

I'm sure there'll be utter idiots around who'd like to remove books/biographies/catalogues about Gill from the National Art Library, and remove statues from various museum collections. And they say that so-called 'woke' people are the censors! ;)

Was it the late Fiona McCarthy who exposed a lot of Gill's ultra-pervy/paedo behaviour in her biography of him, a good few years ago? Myself and colleagues helped her with some of her research on our library, not that that's all that relevant** .... even though she was nice ... :)

**(nor that this is the 'Most famous people you've met' thread! ;) :D :oops: )
 
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Which other artists work should we destroy? Gaugin? Picasso? Should we never screen a Hitchcock again?

I applaud taking down statues that celebrate slave owners but destroying art because you don’t like the artist (and don’t get me wrong Gill was abhorrent) and we’re on a very slippery slope
 
Wonder whether they’ll put what’s left of the statue in a little museum somewhere…
With context, properly explantory panels, etc., like I suggested above, even a smashed statue can help scholars and others who are really interested (like with Colston in the M-Shed! ;) 0
 
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Pedantically, Ariel isn't a child. He was taken by Sycorax when mature, held for twelve years before Prospero turned up and rescued him. Usually portrayed by a bloke in their early twenties.

Which might matter in other circumstances, but putting the specific form it has taken with the specific nature of its creator, it is not something that should be put as a centre piece in any public arena.
I don't know and nor it seems do you what the criteria for the statue were, nor the influence the commissioners, the BBC, had on the project. You seem to me to be making assumptions you can't back up. For example you're saying yer man's predilections can be seen in his work. Maybe you could show some other examples from Gill and maybe one or two other artists to support this.
 
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