hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Seems like the left side of the Labour vote or at least a chunk of it might have stayed as a Labour vote this time?
Batley and Spen by-election
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Guessing MOATS means like "mother of all something or other", but to me it makes it sound a bit like they're going to have to send Gazza in after Galloway with some cans of Carlsberg and fried chicken.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
It's the name of his RT show, "Mother of all talk shows"
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Debatable imo if voting Green is left tbh. I'm more interested where the w/class vote went.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Fedoras are fine… if you’re a 17-year-old internet-based new atheist who’s memorised all the Wikipedia entries on ‘logical fallacies’. Actually, come to think of it, it’s not fine at all.
I'm enjoying the instant pivot to 'actually this is a terrible result for Labour' on the thread though.
Argonia
Happy go licky
From Momentum - apologies if posted up already:
In 2019, Corbyn’s Labour won the seat with 42.7% of the vote. Today we won with 35%. That is a worrying trend. We can’t pretend that this was a general election winning performance. If our vote share declined by the amount it did last night in a GE we would be reduced to a rump party.
en.wikipedia.org
In 2019, Corbyn’s Labour won the seat with 42.7% of the vote. Today we won with 35%. That is a worrying trend. We can’t pretend that this was a general election winning performance. If our vote share declined by the amount it did last night in a GE we would be reduced to a rump party.
Rump Parliament - Wikipedia
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Of course it's a terrible result for labour
If they'd lost starmer would be out. An excellent result for starmer. A shit result for labour.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
They're already a party full of arsesFrom Momentum - apologies if posted up already:
In 2019, Corbyn’s Labour won the seat with 42.7% of the vote. Today we won with 35%. That is a worrying trend. We can’t pretend that this was a general election winning performance. If our vote share declined by the amount it did last night in a GE we would be reduced to a rump party.
Rump Parliament - Wikipedia
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
LP had a 41% decline in votes on a 28% decline in turnout; still looks like a lot of stay-at-home from their former 'core'; whether they're 'left' or not, who can say?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Yes I thought the Tories, aided by Galloways intervention, would win it. I also like the idea that having voted for Starmer to be leader that the Labour Party members are now somehow prisoners of him and require liberation.
bemused
Well-Known Member
Not winning big enogh.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fairly guaranteed as either outcome had downsides, and Starmer taking comfort and gaining security is a very real downside for their future electoral prospects.
A win is a win is a win
The direction of various currents within the result - the suggestion above of m/c Tories voting Labour, where Galloway's votes came from, how many Labour inclined people stayed home etc - is the interesting bit. One which we can continue to speculate on all day
The direction of various currents within the result - the suggestion above of m/c Tories voting Labour, where Galloway's votes came from, how many Labour inclined people stayed home etc - is the interesting bit. One which we can continue to speculate on all day
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Explain the logic behind "Starmer taking comfort and gaining security is a very real downside for their future electoral prospects." please
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
He's shite.
these numbers don't mean anything, it's a by-election. of course the turnout is down.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The gaggle of far right grouplets got absolutely trashed
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Oh; OK.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
We deserve a better analysis than that
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's all Starmer deserves.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
It’s the sort of result that means every cunt can put their own spin on it. What all the media pundits make of it will reflect their own beliefs and desires regardless of why people voted which way or why people came out to vote and others didn’t.
At least it takes a bit of swagger out of the tories, maybe it’ll start a narrative of Johnson being a vote-loser and start sowing chaos in their ranks for a change.
At least it takes a bit of swagger out of the tories, maybe it’ll start a narrative of Johnson being a vote-loser and start sowing chaos in their ranks for a change.
Glad to see Galloway fulminating, threatening lawsuits. All he has, threats and bullying. Hot air in a shit hat
