Avatar (James Cameron) [SPOILERS]

[Reno]

I don't think cinemas ever had intervals in the middle of a film. Just between two different films.

Until the 80s films that were longer than 2 1/2 hours had an interval. Some DVDs and Blu-rays, like the one for Kubrick's 2001 even observe that as to re-create the theatrical experience.

 

[joustmaster]

I don't think cinemas ever had intervals in the middle of a film. Just between two different films.

when i went to see spiderman 2 (free tickets, not that i would have paid) at a small independent cinema, they had an interval and sold icecream.

they seemed to choose the break point by stopping the film exactly half way through, mid sentence.

 

[dessiato]

Here in Portugal they have a break, because films are 'too long to watch all at once'. Strange people the Portuguese.

 

[Kanda]

Here in Portugal they have a break, because films are 'too long to watch all at once'. Strange people the Portuguese.

Are the cinemas dated? Maybe they're still on old Reel systems?

 

[og ogilby]

I'm glad Avatar didn't have an interval. I was in the cinema for 3 hours.

 

[dessiato]

Are the cinemas dated? Maybe they're still on old Reel systems?

The cinema is really quite new, most of the ones local to me are less than five years old, and multi screens. All in modern shopping centres. Whether or not the actual equipment is dated I don't know. Would this be the case if they are showing movies in 3D?

 

[Pat24]

Just out of interest, have you enjoyed every single film you've ever seen? Are there any films at all that you dislike?

what a bizarre question..of course not! take a chill pill, it's only a forum

 

[fractionMan]

Well I enjoyed it. Forgot it was CGI pretty quickly tbh.

You can't beat a bit of space elves with dragons vs men with mechs can you?

This is the one based on Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War" non?

Nope, Ridley Scott's doing that, but using the same 3D technology as Avatar.

Cool. I've just read that trilogy.

 

[TAE]

Watched Avatar yesterday in Real3D on a big screen - loved it.

Ok, the plot was pretty standard, but oh the technology!

The camera work, the CGI, the use of 3D, all blew me away. It was a real joy to watch this film.

 

[elevendayempire]

I really enjoyed it. And writing a well-crafted "standard" plot is actually really hard - look at a lot of the dross that makes it into cinemas, Avatar is streets ahead of bloody Transformers 2. The Si'lly A'lien Na'mes got a bit wearing after a while, though. On the other hand, Michelle Rodriguez in combat gear and warpaint... does things to me.

 

[mhendo]

what a bizarre question..of course not! take a chill pill, it's only a forum

Yeah, and it's only a film. Why do you care if people want to criticize it?

You said that people should not read too much into it, and just enjoy the film. But the point is that some people don't enjoy the film, precisely because of what they read in it, and your stupid exhortation isn't going to change that.

What if i took a film that you really don't like, and told you that you had no business disliking it, and that you should just enjoy it? Sort of a pointless request, isn't it? Because if you don't like it, you don't like it.

 

[PacificOcean]

I saw it in IMAX and was less than impressed. Indeed, I had to give up after about an hour as it was giving me a banging headache.

Proper IMAX usually means things floating out of the screen, but this just seemed regular cinema 3D blown up for IMAX - everything was on planes if you know what I mean (ie the cast are on one level, then the background is on another).

It went all blurry whenever the camera panned.

And after paying a shocking £15 for ticket, I wasn't too happy.

 

[mhendo]

And after paying a shocking £15 for ticket, I wasn't too happy.

15 quid? Fuck me! I paid $US16.50 and i thought that was bad.

 

[Pat24]

Yeah, and it's only a film. Why do you care if people want to criticize it?

You said that people should not read too much into it, and just enjoy the film. But the point is that some people don't enjoy the film, precisely because of what they read in it, and your stupid exhortation isn't going to change that.

What if i took a film that you really don't like, and told you that you had no business disliking it, and that you should just enjoy it? Sort of a pointless request, isn't it? Because if you don't like it, you don't like it.

blahhh blahhh blahhhhh *snores*

 

[mhendo]

blahhh blahhh blahhhhh *snores*

Well, at least you have the attention span and intellectual complexity to be a fan of James Cameron plots.

 

[DexterTCN]

And after paying a shocking £15 for ticket, I wasn't too happy.

£10.10 up here.

I enjoyed it, the night forest scene was exceptionally nice visually, the 3d effects throughout were reasonable and never intrusive. (I liked the bit early on where he was waving a burning torch and didn't thrust it at the camera.)

I'm wondering if it's worth going to see again in an IMAX.

btw plot-lines? from the man who brought us Aliens and Terminator/TII ? No, he can get Oscars without plots and coin in the most money as well, it seems. The plots usually write themselves with Cameron.

Let's put it this way..who would you rather have doing stuff like this...Cameron or Michael Bay?

He does what Spielberg used to do.

 

[PacificOcean]

I'm wondering if it's worth going to see again in an IMAX.

Having seen things made for Imax I wouldn't bother. It wasn't a true Imax film just Cineworld/Odeon style 3D blown up for a bigger screen - It was really blurry.

 

[DexterTCN]

Thanks for that.

 

[STFC]

I'm going to see it tonight. It's not really 'my sort of film', but I'm interested in seeing whether the 3D is as good as it's cracked up to be.

 

[DRINK?]

looks like a series of Yes album covers bought to life...

 

[MightyAphrodite]

I went to sleep during Avatar.

 

[elevendayempire]

looks like a series of Yes album covers bought to life...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[phildwyer]

Here in Portugal they have a break, because films are 'too long to watch all at once'. Strange people the Portuguese.

Yes, there was an interval here in Turkey too.

Pretty basic story and script, heavy-handed political allegory, amazing effects.

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[MightyAphrodite]

thats funny


mainly because i keep getting the james cameron and david cameron threads confused

 

[danny la rouge]

mainly because i keep getting the james cameron and david cameron threads confused

Me too.

 

[paimei01]

"Avatar" is based on real events:

“ notwithstanding the French Commissioners took all the Pains possible to carry Home the French, that were Prisoners with the Five Nations, and they had full Liberty from the Indians, few of them could be persuaded to return. “Nor, he has to admit, is this merely a reflection on the quality of French colonial life, “for the English had as much Difficulty” in persuading their redeemed to come home, despite what Colden would claim were the obvious superiority of English ways:

No Arguments, no Intreaties, nor Tears of their Friends and Relations, could persuade many of them to leave their new Indian Friends and Acquaintance; several of them that were by the Caressings of their Relations persuaded to come Home, in a little Time grew tired of our Manner of living, and run away again to the Indians, and ended their Days with them. On the other Hand, Indian Children have been carefully educated among the English, cloathed and taught, yet, I think, there is not one Instance, that any of these, after they had Liberty to go among their own People, and were come to Age, would remain with the English, but returned to their own Nations, and became as fond of the Indian Manner of Life as those that knew nothing of a civilized Manner of Living. And, he concludes, what he says of this particular prisoner exchange “has been found true on many other Occasions.”

Benjamin Franklin was even more pointed: When an Indian child is raised in white civilization, he remarks, the civilizing somehow does not stick, and at the first opportunity he will go back to his red relations, from whence there is no hope whatever of redeeming him. But when white persons of either sex have been taken prisoners young by the Indians, and have lived a while among them, tho’ ransomed by their Friends, and treated with all imaginable tenderness toprevail with them to stay among the English, yet in a Short time they become disgusted with our manner of life, and the care and pains that are necessary to support it, and take the firstgood Opportunity of escaping again into the Woods, from whence there is no reclaiming them.

There was always the great woods, and the life to be lived within it was, Crevecoeur admits, “singularly captivating,” perhaps even superior to that so boasted of by the transplanted Europeans. For, as many knew to their rueful amazement, “thousands of Europeans are Indians, and we have no examples of even one of those aborigines having from choice become Europeans!”

http://paimei01.blogspot.com/2009/08/prisoner-exchange.html

This message is the catalyst for an intellectual awakening among the population, accompanied by the feeling that something old and familiar has been uncovered.

The power of this message to move an individual is due to the psychological fact that, although repression shuts down deep thinking, tribal ideas continue to push for entrance into consciousness.

http://www.primitivism.com/machine-heads.htm

 

[The Octagon]

Surpasses Titanic as the most succesful film of all time - $1.859 billion (Titanic took $1.853bn).

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/01/26/avatar-beats-titanic/

 

[TAE]

Kind of hypocritical of me as I went to see the film myself, but what are we doing spending 1.8 B on 3 hours of fun when it would go a long way if donated to Oxfam or other charities in Haiti and around the world.

 

[Reno]

Kind of hypocritical of me as I went to see the film myself, but what are we doing spending 1.8 B on 3 hours of fun when it would go a long way if donated to Oxfam or other charities in Haiti and around the world.

I think I'll just go and flagellate myself now.