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I probably could now tbh. I just don't know if I could stop myself from vaulting across the desk and stabbing the interviewer repeatedly in the eyeballs with my specially sharpened pencil. It is my favourite ATOS fantasy.

Mine is usually a biro to the carotid :D

(Liked your other post for the positivity of making decisions, not the tired and rubbish bits, if that makes sense)

You mangy pair of liberals!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

What's with these quick maimings and killings, eh? The only way to treat these bottom-feeding "Healthcare Professionals" is to do everything slow and steady, savouring their screams, all the while telling them "that doesn't really hurt. You're just making that up. What you need is a proper job!".
 
I'm struggling through my pip form at the moment (after being on DLA). I was only given ten days' notice to fill it in, have to get someone to write it for me and they've been busy a lot, plus I've been unable to get some evidence I need due to ongoing problems with the computers at my GP and main hospital, but I don't want to have to ask for an extension. Too two hours to do the food and medications questions today. It's so exhausting.
 
I'm struggling through my pip form at the moment (after being on DLA). I was only given ten days' notice to fill it in, have to get someone to write it for me and they've been busy a lot, plus I've been unable to get some evidence I need due to ongoing problems with the computers at my GP and main hospital, but I don't want to have to ask for an extension. Too two hours to do the food and medications questions today. It's so exhausting.
Sorry it's so shit scifisam.
 
I'm struggling through my pip form at the moment (after being on DLA). I was only given ten days' notice to fill it in, have to get someone to write it for me and they've been busy a lot, plus I've been unable to get some evidence I need due to ongoing problems with the computers at my GP and main hospital, but I don't want to have to ask for an extension. Too two hours to do the food and medications questions today. It's so exhausting.

It's anxiety-inducing isn't it. You will get there. You absolutely will. Thinking of you. :)
 
I'm struggling through my pip form at the moment (after being on DLA). I was only given ten days' notice to fill it in, have to get someone to write it for me and they've been busy a lot, plus I've been unable to get some evidence I need due to ongoing problems with the computers at my GP and main hospital, but I don't want to have to ask for an extension. Too two hours to do the food and medications questions today. It's so exhausting.
hows it going? good luck x
 
That's a new one on me. My sister has been told by DWP that she doesn't need to fill in an ESA50 form as she's currently seeing a psychiatrist and just to send in medical evidence. :eek::hmm:



Just received another 3 shitty brown envelopes this morning and can't be arsed to open them just yet. :mad::(
 
Thank you for asking :) We finally finished it on Thursday, photocopied it and sent it off registered post. Given that I had to get a lift to the post office and then help from the lovely staff there to sellotape the envelope down I hope it should be a fairly straightforward claim :)

This is what the pip claims process reduces people to: a constant "how is my mobility affected by my illness and how do I evidence that?" stream of consciousness.

Good luck!
 
Thank you for asking :) We finally finished it on Thursday, photocopied it and sent it off registered post. Given that I had to get a lift to the post office and then help from the lovely staff there to sellotape the envelope down I hope it should be a fairly straightforward claim :)
fingers crossed for you x
 
Just received another 3 shitty brown envelopes this morning and can't be arsed to open them just yet. :mad::(
The grlf was about to have kittens about a brown envelope a few weeks ago - So I ripped it open straight away as I usually do - it was just notication about the annual increase, phew! Then again a few days ago she looked really scared about another brown envelope and it turned out it was just informing her they had forgotten to mention the £10 xmas bonus. Phew! She is still on high alert at the sight of every brown envelope.

I wish you strength to open yours. x
 
That's a new one on me. My sister has been told by DWP that she doesn't need to fill in an ESA50 form as she's currently seeing a psychiatrist and just to send in medical evidence. :eek:


Just received another 3 shitty brown envelopes this morning and can't be arsed to open them just yet. :mad::(
Another 3 letters??? More contradictory useless letters??

I Would be very wary of that advice - if she can get a form filled out, as much as possible if not complete, then I would do that. Especially if she has no written proof of the instruction from the DWP.

ViolentPanda have you heard of people being given advice to not send in the forms?
 
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The grlf was about to have kittens about a brown envelope a few weeks ago - So I ripped it open straight away as I usually do - it was just notication about the annual increase, phew! Then again a few days ago she looked really scared about another brown envelope and it turned out it was just informing her they had forgotten to mention the £10 xmas bonus. Phew! She is still on high alert at the sight of every brown envelope.

I wish you strength to open yours. x

I had both of those over the last couple of weeks too. :mad:

Brown envelope/brown underwear moments! :mad:
 
Another 3 letters??? More contradictory useless letters??

I Would be very wary of that advice - if she can get a form filled out, as much as possible if not complete, then I would do that. Especially if she has no written proof of the instruction from the DWP.

ViolentPanda have you heard of people being given advised to not send in the forms?

It does happen, but rarely - usually when you've got a condition that's unarguably degenerative. If I were WouldBe 's sister, I'd phone up and ask for written confirmation.
 
Another 3 letters??? More contradictory useless letters??
Appears to be a repeat of the 3 letters I had a couple of weeks ago. "Due to a change in your housing benefit we're altering your housing benefit". :eek: :facepalm:

I Would be very wary of that advice - if she can get a form filled out, as much as possible if not complete, then I would do that. Especially if she has no written proof of the instruction from the DWP.
Just like me she always records phone conversations with the DWP and the advice came from a DWP manager as they are the only ones that can access her file. :)
 
Tomorrow I have to accompany someone to their ESA /ATOS assessment as they suffer from severe anxiety with depression and wouldn't be in a place to attend if they didn't have support. I believe they have asked for the interview to be recorded and ATOS (or whoever the new cunts are) informed them that they would contact them if this wasn't possible - They haven't contacted them to date.

What should we expect? what can I do and say during the interview?

I was going to take notes and record the session regardless for my own note taking benefit.
 
Tomorrow I have to accompany someone to their ESA /ATOS assessment as they suffer from severe anxiety with depression and wouldn't be in a place to attend if they didn't have support. I believe they have asked for the interview to be recorded and ATOS (or whoever the new cunts are) informed them that they would contact them if this wasn't possible - They haven't contacted them to date.

What should we expect? what can I do and say during the interview?

I was going to take notes and record the session regardless for my own note taking benefit.
A shiny square quid says they'll "have no note of the request" and will press to continue the interview without recording equipment. So record the session covertly, and make notes blatantly. Then, if you need to, you can update the notes from the recording afterwards.

Because they're cunts.
 
Tomorrow I have to accompany someone to their ESA /ATOS assessment as they suffer from severe anxiety with depression and wouldn't be in a place to attend if they didn't have support. I believe they have asked for the interview to be recorded and ATOS (or whoever the new cunts are) informed them that they would contact them if this wasn't possible - They haven't contacted them to date.

What should we expect? what can I do and say during the interview?

I was going to take notes and record the session regardless for my own note taking benefit.
I accompanied my girlf. Expect them to be observing you from before you come in the door, we were met by the 'healthcare professional' where we had to sign in and then we had to sit in a waiting room (which really amplifies the anxiety) even though we were right on time.

I was allowed to contribute, I'd fill in the gaps after the girf had said something like she would would say 'Yes I can do x' I'd add things like 'but you are often to ill to do x - you can't do it everyday' or 'I often need to do x for you'. I took all the paperwork and chipped in with things like 'we have a hospital letter about that' and insisted she accept all the copies of hospital appts and doctors letters.

When ever something is discussed be sure to stress if this can't be done reliably and repeatedly. Stress 'on a good' and what a bad day is like. So often in talking about mental health we talk ourselves up, we like to be optimistic and positive - here you have to stress all the downs, all the negatives, no point in being optististic at all - tell them all the shit bits.

Be sure to point out the friend wouldn't have been able to attend without you. I pointed out that I had planned the least stressful bus journey to get her there - with the fewest changes, made sure she was up and dressed, led her out of the house, held her by the hand and that sort of thing. Spell out what you have done.

I tried to write notes but I found this difficult to do as well as listening/speaking. I found it quite upsetting seeing her so upset too, I offered to leave the room when she was asked about suicide - very distressing for her to answer and it was horrible to listen to.

She was asked innocent sounding questions eg one about smoking - but we had been warned that to answer she could 'roll her own' might translate in the Atos mind to something like 'is manually dexterous' Grlf was nervous as hell and shaking like a leaf so obviously incapable of rolling her own that day. I'd advised her to have some rolled ready as she was bound to need a smoke that day. There is no harm at all in the assessor seeing just how nervous and anxious your friend is.

Wishing you and your friend all the best.
 
Tomorrow I have to accompany someone to their ESA /ATOS assessment as they suffer from severe anxiety with depression and wouldn't be in a place to attend if they didn't have support. I believe they have asked for the interview to be recorded and ATOS (or whoever the new cunts are) informed them that they would contact them if this wasn't possible - They haven't contacted them to date.

What should we expect? what can I do and say during the interview?

I was going to take notes and record the session regardless for my own note taking benefit.
They may ask innocent sounding questions like 'did you get here OK?'. A typically British answer of 'fine, thanks' is anecdotally reported as being used as evidence the claimant can travel around by themselves with no issues.

Do not be afraid to ask what actual health care experience they gave - are they a doctor, nurse, chiropodist, chiropractor? Do they have any mental health care experience?

IF they query note taking you can always point out its to aid the claimant as they are concentrating on the interview and can't do both.

You will also be observed after leaving the building.

Best of luck, let us know how you get on.
 
They may ask innocent sounding questions like 'did you get here OK?'. A typically British answer of 'fine, thanks' is anecdotally reported as being used as evidence the claimant can travel around by themselves with no issues.

Do not be afraid to ask what actual health care experience they gave - are they a doctor, nurse, chiropodist, chiropractor? Do they have any mental health care experience?

IF they query note taking you can always point out its to aid the claimant as they are concentrating on the interview and can't do both.

You will also be observed after leaving the building.

Best of luck, let us know how you get on.

Often, if you ask them what their healthcare experience is, they won't answer, or just spout some crap (as at my last PIP assessment) about being a "disability analyst". I eventually found out that the guy making judgements about my cognitive problems and my deafness was a fucking physiotherapist.
 
Often, if you ask them what their healthcare experience is, they won't answer, or just spout some crap (as at my last PIP assessment) about being a "disability analyst". I eventually found out that the guy making judgements about my cognitive problems and my deafness was a fucking physiotherapist.
FOR FUCKS SAKE.

A Physiotherapist????

FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!
 
Often, if you ask them what their healthcare experience is, they won't answer, or just spout some crap (as at my last PIP assessment) about being a "disability analyst". I eventually found out that the guy making judgements about my cognitive problems and my deafness was a fucking physiotherapist.
I wonder if a good way to ask the question would be to ask who they are professionally registered with?
 
The person at ATOS who did my assessment was (seemingly) really kind and supportive. I was very anxious during the interview, shaking the whole time. I thought that I had managed to get my case across, and left the interview slightly less nervous than at the start. It was only when I received the PIP rejection letter that I realised that I had been taken for a fool. The written statement bore very little resemblance to the interview. The assessor had lied repeatedly throughout it.
 
The person at ATOS who did my assessment was (seemingly) really kind and supportive. I was very anxious during the interview, shaking the whole time. I thought that I had managed to get my case across, and left the interview slightly less nervous than at the start. It was only when I received the PIP rejection letter that I realised that I had been taken for a fool. The written statement bore very little resemblance to the interview. The assessor had lied repeatedly throughout it.
Are you going to ask for mandatory reconsideration?

Sorry you were treated so poorly :(
 
Are you going to ask for mandatory reconsideration?

Sorry you were treated so poorly :(
Had the mandatory reconsideration - I'm on to the appeal stage now. Panicking, as I haven't been able to get an appointment see my GP (for a letter to provide evidence), and CAB haven't got back to me yet.
The appeal application has to get there by 22nd. I am fucked :mad::(
 
Had the mandatory reconsideration - I'm on to the appeal stage now. Panicking, as I haven't been able to get an appointment see my GP (for a letter to provide evidence), and CAB haven't got back to me yet.
The appeal application has to get there by 22nd. I am fucked :mad::(
Have you had a gp letter done before by this gp? If so, could they update that one and leave a signed copy for you to pick up from reception? If you got it Monday then you could send it special delivery.

Can you ask for an emergency appointment?
 
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