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hello thread :) sorry if this is garbled, i'm not sure what's relevant info and what isn't. also excuse patchy info, i can ask more qs and check details.

my bezzer is in a bad way atm. she has longstanding (since childhood) mental health issues, that express mostly in ocd and anxiety. she's a lone parent, with kid1 age 14 and kid2 age 5. kid1 has ongoing medical and mental health issues - entailing various appointments and time off from school. bezzer's mh stuff is exacerbated with her direct neighbours doing heavy building work at all hours of the day, and needing the pipes in her house replacing because they're made of lead - so upcoming extensive works making her home feel unsafe.

she's on a "looking for work" benefit atm, with all the required jobsearching. she's followed up every opportunity and either they've fizzled out for some reason out of her control or she's been simply unable to manage. she was signed off by her doctor for a bit but (and here's where i'm unhelpfully fuzzy) i think that only lasts so long so she's back on the jobsearch now.

i know nothing of the system but i think pip might be relevant? i did ask but she's terrified by piles of official paperwork and the assessments etc. but equally she's overwhelmed and beaten down by the jobsearch stuff.

does anyone have any advice or options? realistically would it be better to find a way of working the job search system or would she stand any chance of getting some peace-of-mind and ongoing financial support through pip?
 
wayward bob sounds like she's on JSA at the moment? I'm only speaking from personal experience here (sure one of our resident experts will be along shortly to give you better advice) but switching to ESA might be better for her.

I've just found this -
Disability Rights UK website said:
If you fall ill, you may choose to stay on JSA for up to two weeks: you must fill in a form to declare that you are unfit for work and for how long. You may only do this twice a year.

If your illness is expected to last for more than two weeks, but no more than 13 weeks, you may choose to stay on JSA for a continuous period of up to 13 weeks. If you are still sick after 13 weeks, you cannot stay on JSA but need to claim Employment and Support Allowance instead; for more information, see our Factsheet F31 - Employment and Support Allowance.

(They have loads of other advice linked to here which might be more relevant if she's in a Universal Credit area)
 
hello thread :) sorry if this is garbled, i'm not sure what's relevant info and what isn't. also excuse patchy info, i can ask more qs and check details.

my bezzer is in a bad way atm. she has longstanding (since childhood) mental health issues, that express mostly in ocd and anxiety. she's a lone parent, with kid1 age 14 and kid2 age 5. kid1 has ongoing medical and mental health issues - entailing various appointments and time off from school. bezzer's mh stuff is exacerbated with her direct neighbours doing heavy building work at all hours of the day, and needing the pipes in her house replacing because they're made of lead - so upcoming extensive works making her home feel unsafe.

she's on a "looking for work" benefit atm, with all the required jobsearching. she's followed up every opportunity and either they've fizzled out for some reason out of her control or she's been simply unable to manage. she was signed off by her doctor for a bit but (and here's where i'm unhelpfully fuzzy) i think that only lasts so long so she's back on the jobsearch now.

i know nothing of the system but i think pip might be relevant? i did ask but she's terrified by piles of official paperwork and the assessments etc. but equally she's overwhelmed and beaten down by the jobsearch stuff.

does anyone have any advice or options? realistically would it be better to find a way of working the job search system or would she stand any chance of getting some peace-of-mind and ongoing financial support through pip?

If she's not already claiming it, then like iona say, she should claim ESA. She should also submit a claim for PIP on spec.

The forms for both are bastards, full of traps for the unwary, so she'll need professional help to fill the forms in.
 
Just had a bout of Brown Envelope Fever - submitted my ESA renewal about 5 weeks ago, and have been awaiting news ever since.

Fortunately, they've renewed me sight-unseen (i.e. just on the papers) in the support group, so no medical to attend. Oh well, that's hopefully another year, possibly more before I get hassled about ESA again, thank fuck!
 
Just had a bout of Brown Envelope Fever - submitted my ESA renewal about 5 weeks ago, and have been awaiting news ever since.

Fortunately, they've renewed me sight-unseen (i.e. just on the papers) in the support group, so no medical to attend. Oh well, that's hopefully another year, possibly more before I get hassled about ESA again, thank fuck!
That's great, nice to have a bit of good news after all those brown envelopes :)
 
That's great, nice to have a bit of good news after all those brown envelopes :)

I did have a vague hope that they'd just renew on the papers, given that my health had provably gone downhill, and for once they seem to have paid attention to the evidence. It might have had something to do with it all being from consultants, none from the GP.
 
I'm about to enter the pip and esa nightmare with the daughter. She's not on any benefits atm and none of us have ever claimed before so I'm going to need some help for her.
 
I cant believe i had my esa extended without an assessment. i rang them last week to ask why i havent recieved my brown envelope my 3 year award is up and im due to be reassessed and they told me, to my absolute suprise, its been extended by 2 more years..i havent even submitted my new psyche reports..i guess the last one was sufficient..its all about paper evidence..gather as much paper evidence as you can (get a file going) i have some from a shrink, psyche nurse my Dr, a neurologist and opthalmologist..i think about 6 letters plus a 15 page essay about my years of torture and abuse in "care" arrrrggghhhh..im done worrying what these cunts think anymore, i was so stressed but will never worry what they think again. Time to live my life without fear and improve my quality of life without thinking im doing wrong.
 
I'm about to enter the pip and esa nightmare with the daughter. She's not on any benefits atm and none of us have ever claimed before so I'm going to need some help for her.
Don't worry about fitting answers in the small boxes, if needs be using additional sheets of paper for each question.

Also, we're here to help - feel free to start a pm if you want to discuss something private or medical. No question too small.
 
They may ask innocent sounding questions like 'did you get here OK?'. A typically British answer of 'fine, thanks' is anecdotally reported as being used as evidence the claimant can travel around by themselves with no issues.

Do not be afraid to ask what actual health care experience they gave - are they a doctor, nurse, chiropodist, chiropractor? Do they have any mental health care experience?

IF they query note taking you can always point out its to aid the claimant as they are concentrating on the interview and can't do both.

You will also be observed after leaving the building.

Best of luck, let us know how you get on.

It was pretty stressful and a really shitty experience all round. My friend was visibly shaking from the stress and their mental health had deterioated in the week leading up to the assessment as they were so worried.
The assessment itself had a negative impact on their mental health. How any medical professional can take part in these assessments in good faith is beyond belief. They should all be struck off/ disbarred / hung from lamposts.

However, I've just heard the results and they've got in the support group. Though the letter they recieved hasn't got a time limit on it.

Any idea of how long they'll leave it for another ESA50 and another re-assessment?
 
It was pretty stressful and a really shitty experience all round. My friend was visibly shaking from the stress and their mental health had deterioated in the week leading up to the assessment as they were so worried.
The assessment itself had a negative impact on their mental health. How any medical professional can take part in these assessments in good faith is beyond belief. They should all be struck off/ disbarred / hung from lamposts.

However, I've just heard the results and they've got in the support group. Though the letter they recieved hasn't got a time limit on it.

Any idea of how long they'll leave it for another ESA50 and another re-assessment?
Hurrah for your friend getting into the support group, that's great news :)

I Am no expert, and it seems to vary a lot. The letter should say how long they are in the group before reassessment, I would think at least a year.
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

I need to send a reply before 25th to explain why I've not told them about what they have done. :facepalm::mad:

Do we have to start telling them each time they send us a shitty fucking letter just in case? :facepalm::mad::(
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

I need to send a reply before 25th to explain why I've not told them about what they have done. :facepalm::mad:

Do we have to start telling them each time they send us a shitty fucking letter just in case? :facepalm::mad::(

Jesus fuck :mad:
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

Did your DLA stopping result in an overpayment of benefits?
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

I need to send a reply before 25th to explain why I've not told them about what they have done. :facepalm::mad:

Do we have to start telling them each time they send us a shitty fucking letter just in case? :facepalm::mad::(
For fucks sake.
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

I need to send a reply before 25th to explain why I've not told them about what they have done. :facepalm::mad:

Do we have to start telling them each time they send us a shitty fucking letter just in case? :facepalm::mad::(
????????????? They can impose penalties as well as stopping benefits?
 
Thought today's white envelope with a "Centre for Health and Disability Assessments" return address might be an appointment for my PIP assessment. Nope, it's an ESA50 because they've decided to reassess that at the same time :mad::facepalm::(
 
????????????? They can impose penalties as well as stopping benefits?

Yeah, they did it to me when I started work a few years ago and they reckoned it was my not telling them soon enough that had caused them to overpay me. You can appeal but I had nothing to back mine up - didn't even find out about it until I went back on ESA several years later and they started deducting money for the overpayment and penalty :mad:

Fingers crossed this will get sorted quickly for WouldBe. Not like it's unclear who's to blame for this particular fuck up, ffs!
 
I've received another shitty brown envelope this morning. The DWP and trying to impose a £50 civil penalty on me for failing to notify the DWP that the DWP have stopped my DLA. :facepalm:

I need to send a reply before 25th to explain why I've not told them about what they have done. :facepalm::mad:

Do we have to start telling them each time they send us a shitty fucking letter just in case? :facepalm::mad::(
Kafka just walked away shaking his head in disbelief...
 
Did your DLA stopping result in an overpayment of benefits?
Yes because there s a severe disability premium added to the ESA which they didn't bother stopping at the same time.

When the DWP start paying benefit claimants DWP wages only then should we start doing their fucking jobs for them. Until then they should fuck off and do the jobs they are paid to do and do them fucking correctly. :mad:

What's that recent law about encouraging people to commit suicide? :eek: ;)
 
If it is the Severe Disability Premium WouldBe I would appeal against the decision to recover the overpayment because as a Claimant it is unreasonable to expect you to understand how Premiums work and also because the Benefits are paid by the same Dept surely there should have been some in house notification at the time.
Because of the delay of this action by the DWP then surely it is a DWP error ( that you could not be expected to understand) and is therefore non recoverable, in which case they should waive that ridiculous fine too.
 
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