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Oh dear Ganji, that sounds awful :(

Does anyone here know what happens at these Work Related Activities group things?

I am going to stress that I need a home assessment as attempting to attend a medical would definitely cause a massive panic attack, In fact, even having it at home is likely to cause one, I can't get public transport and we have no money for cabs.

I don't think, as things stand, I would be able to attend a work activitiy thingy either .:(

I need to fill this form in like a depressed anxious fucking Ninja :hmm:
 
My experience of WRAG was quite simple. I had to go to the job centre for a interview with my personal adviser. I had to briefly explain my illness and how it affects me. The idea is to make an Action Plan! Which is basically a load of shit. I think the idea is that she would point me at education /volunteering to get me work ready. Obvs not going to happen. :rolleyes: but my Open Action Items (the stuff you agree to do) basically said I wasn't well enough to do anything and everything was irrelevant (but in her words not mine). Then just before my year of contributions ran out I had a other personal adviser meeting where we established that I don't need to do anything or come back as I'm not getting any money so I can't be forced to do anything.

I actually got the impression that it was just box ticking and plenty of people they deal with should really be in the support group. But at the same time they are the people who send to work programmes so fuckers all the same.

I'll scan in my action plan later and put it up here if I can remove all personal details.
 
wtfftw said:
My experience of WRAG was quite simple. I had to go to the job centre for a interview with my personal adviser. I had to briefly explain my illness and how it affects me. The idea is to make an Action Plan! Which is basically a load of shit. I think the idea is that she would point me at education /volunteering to get me work ready. Obvs not going to happen. :rolleyes: but my Open Action Items (the stuff you agree to do) basically said I wasn't well enough to do anything and everything was irrelevant (but in her words not mine). Then just before my year of contributions ran out I had a other personal adviser meeting where we established that I don't need to do anything or come back as I'm not getting any money so I can't be forced to do anything.

I actually got the impression that it was just box ticking and plenty of people they deal with should really be in the support group. But at the same time they are the people who send to work programmes so fuckers all the same.

I'll scan in my action plan later and put it up here if I can remove all personal details.
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Ah OK? Thanks
 
Another quick question about the return address for the Capability for work Questionnaire?

We have one envelope that has the return address as Wembly SW95 9EB, and another which says Glasgow G90.
Anyone know which is the correct address?
I don't want to end up sending it to the wrong place. :(

Form is almost completed with just one bit to do tomorrow morning as Badgers hand is too cramped from writing to carry on.
 
kittyP said:
Oh dear Ganji, that sounds awful :(

Does anyone here know what happens at these Work Related Activities group things?

I am going to stress that I need a home assessment as attempting to attend a medical would definitely cause a massive panic attack, In fact, even having it at home is likely to cause one, I can't get public transport and we have no money for cabs.

I don't think, as things stand, I would be able to attend a work activitiy thingy either .:(

I need to fill this form in like a depressed anxious fucking Ninja :hmm:
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home assessment and recording.

you will likely need med evidence to proove you need a home assessment, some gps will help some won't. I don't know what ours said about bakunin, but considering he called up at 8pm or so to let us know it had been sent off, and he got given a home assessment, I'm assuming he was quite vigarous in stating how loopy bakunin is.

if you feel yourself having a panic attack, then let it happen, don't fight it. if you have a recording of you having that even for a home assessment, it will destroy any case they might have that you are fit for work.
 
I don't know he they decide if you need a home assessment. I don't think they know either as when i was assessed 12 years ago they came out to my home without me even requesting a home assessment. You really need to think about what you say in those forms don't you as it's like they're trying to catch you out with trick questions. It was really bad timing when i recieved my form as i'd just moved doctors and couldn't get hold of any evidence to send with it. That was perfect for Atos though :(
I thought that by me turning up to the the meeting with the advisor would just be giving them more amunition against me as they'd probably say i'm fit enough to get there then i'm fit enough to work. I take it thats not the case?
 
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if you turn up on your own looking half decent this is counted as being able to do so always, they won't consider the costs of getting there, that this may have taken you a month to recover from
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:D I don't go anywhere by myself and always look as crazy as I bloody feel at the moment so that aint gonna happen.

I am just worried that they won't give me a home assessment and I will just not be able to get out the door to the appointment due to sheer terror and then be seen as just having not turned up.

What would happen that circumstance?
 
ask your gp to write to them requesting a home assessment; i'm fairly sure they refused me one without gp backup (which i didn't get).
when i couldn't attend a medical because the person coming with me cancelled last minute and i couldn't go on my own, it got marked as 'transport problems' :hmm:
i *think* i was told it could only be rearranged a certain number of times as well.
i'll post about my experience of the wrag tomorrow - it's a lot more positive. if that helps.
 
toggle said:
if you turn up on your own looking half decent this is counted as being able to do so always, they won't consider the costs of getting there, that this may have taken you a month to recover from
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Cheers! yeah i think i read that earlier on in the thread. Its comes to something when just looking half decent makes you fit for work. The sytem is crazy nowdays enit.
 
Ganji said:
Cheers! yeah i think i read that earlier on in the thread. Its comes to something when just looking half decent makes you fit for work. The sytem is crazy nowdays enit.
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Definitely. Most people will do their best to turn up no matter what cost to them in terms of a relapse, not realising this could count against them.
 
tufty79 said:
ask your gp to write to them requesting a home assessment; i'm fairly sure they refused me one without gp backup (which i didn't get).
when i couldn't attend a medical because the person coming with me cancelled last minute and i couldn't go on my own, it got marked as 'transport problems' :hmm:
i *think* i was told it could only be rearranged a certain number of times as well.
i'll post about my experience of the wrag tomorrow - it's a lot more positive. if that helps.
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I think my GP would if I asked him. :hmm:
Thing is though, can they write to them separately to the form being posted because I am not going to get an appointment before the form has to be sent.
 
http://www.atoshealthcare.com/claimants/before_your_assessment
Requesting a home visit
Atos Healthcare assessments are usually completed at an Assessment Centre although our healthcare professionals will identify those people who are unable to travel because of their medical condition and a home visit is then offered.
However, if you consider, because of your medical condition, you cannot travel please contact us as soon as possible. Our healthcare professionals will then consider all available information. It is likely we will ask you to obtain some supporting information from a medical professional who is treating you to confirm this.
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i think give them a call and double check, but it sounds like you don't need a gp letter with the form when you first send it in - just to make atos aware asap that you're requesting a home visit, and then send in evidence if/when they ask for it.
 
Atos profits (just to get you even angrier)

FIT-TO-WORK testers Atos are making record profits while running shambolic medical assessments of disabled people on benefits.
Yesterday, Labour’s Tom Greatrex said the Coalition should be claiming money back from the French IT firm because of the mess they have made of the dreaded work capability tests.

The MP for Rutherglen and Hamilton West spoke out after the company announced a 36 per cent increase in profits for 2012.

Atos boasted a net global income increase of 23 per cent to £193million and record commercial activity with £8.6billion of orders.

In their annual report, the company bragged that one of their “main wins above 100million euros in 2012” was a contract with the UK’s Department for Work and Pensions.
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The official added: “We have worked with the DWP for over a decade and our contract with them represents less than two per cent of our revenue.”
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So rich enough to be taking a cut or paying some of it back for all their wrong assessments

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-vents-fury-over-1724041
 
Ello folks
It seems things are looking up my end atleast. The DWP recieved my appeal on the 18th Jan and i'd heard nothing untill today when i recieved a letter from them.

"Thankyou for your appeal.
We have considered the appeal and any new evidence recieved and decided to change the decision.
You will be subject to a further work capability assessment in 18 months.
You have been awarded the support group component.
Your papers have been passed to our benefit section for reassessment, and you will hear from us in due course.
Your appeal will not be sent to an independant tribunal as the decision has been changed in your favour."

As you can probably imagine this is such a massive relief :D
I found an article the other day about the DWP and ATOS http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-vents-fury-over-1724041
It looks like they maybe getting the shake up thats needed. Hopefully!

Cheers folks :D
 
kittyP said:
Violent Panda. Savior of the sick! :) :cool:
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Nice of you to say so, but his main motivation is to do what he can to make the benefits labyrinth a bit easier for others than it was for him.

IMHO nobody should have to go through this stress and red tape when your time and energy would be better spent on recovery or at least stabilising whatever you (in general) live with and coming to terms with it.
 
Just got my form today. I thought you were supposed to have 6 weeks to return it, but they want it back by the 5th of April. :hmm:

I'm definitely going to need some help filling it in.

Anyway, are they still taking months and months to get round to dealing with you?
 
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