Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
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Frumious B.
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It's only Thursday, give it until Friday next week.
Frumious B.
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If you're getting DLA this tool tell you when you'll be moved to PIP https://www.gov.uk/pip-checker. 2015 or later in my case.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Thanks for that, although as award is indefinite, hard to say when it will be up for renewal anyway, as contrary to popular belief, indefinite doesn't mean lifetime
Frumious B.
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Anyone got the benefitsandwork guide to PIP? I want to start a claim for somebody else.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Oh, has nobody responded yet.
I had a quick look to see if there was anything about tribunals but couldn't see, then tried to log in, but have obviously got password wrong.
Will try again
Frumious B.
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I'm not being impatient, just making two separate requests. One for tribunal guide, the other for PIP guide. No tearing hurry for either. 
One for tribunal guide, the other for PIP guide. No tearing hurry for either.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I'm not being impatient, just making two separate requests.
PIP is listing
Points System
Self-Test
Timetable
Documents
Training
Glossary
Right, have found it, but it's 17 documents!
For ESA, for some reason, it's asking me to join, yet I am logged in.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ah right, wasn't looking in the Members' section
bloody hell. i rang back this morning to find out where i'm at, and spoke to a lovely bloke called steve. he went through all the 'arg' with me, and then mentioned about applying for a .. a .. i can't remember what it's called, but it's an advance benefit payment while you're claim's going through, sort of like a crisis loan replacement. i'd been getting so het up about them getting my form because some fuckmuppet told me i wasn't allowed to apply for that until they'd processed my esa1. steve pricked his ears up at that bit - turns out i could've applied for one since 18th july
. so he took me through the application they turned my application down. solely because my form turned up, they processed me, and they've put half the backdated esa into my bank today, and the other half is landing on wednesday.
i have bought a fuckton of food, cat supplies, and .. er.. maybe some poundshop coffee. and paid some bills, some of the money i owe to friends who've helped me out, and am absolutely weirded out that i don't want to get a victory lager or anything booze-related to celebrate with
colour me absolutely astounded. and thank you to steve.
I received a limited capacity for work questionnaire, my support worker tells me it means they are looking to re-asses me again..I won my tribunal in may! There is the chance i will have to appeal any decision & go back to tribunal!
FFS why cant they just leave me alone?
FFS why cant they just leave me alone?
I have finished filling in my ESA50, I had a letter this morning telling me they urgently needed it, strange as the date it was supposed to be returned by the 25th, I had intended to have it sent this weekend and will post it recorded delivery this morning. I have also submitted letters from my GP to the appeals people. My niece is coming on Monday with my great nephews, they can't possibly get the appointment for my interview through that quickly. Thank you people who supported me here.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
They have form for sending these 'we urgently need it' letters before the date they said they needed it by has actually passed. Smacks of harassment to me. Well done for getting it done, and no, they won't have the appointment set up that quickly.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Because the DWP is staffed by petty bureaucrats who seem to enjoy bullying claimants who get what they are entitled to. It is not your fault. Hang in there.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Because they refuse to leave any of us alone; because this is an exercise in the passive coercion of sick people off of social security; because the DWP are well-aware that this passive coercion "works" in terms of eroding the number of claimants, so as well as those whose ESA is withdrawn after their WCA, there's a "premium" of people so fucked off/disheartened and depressed by the constant bureaucratic merry-go-round that they cease their claims.
If you have to appeal this decision, and the findings of your previous tribunal are in any way relevant to this refusal, it's generally a good move to send copies of the relevant sections along with any appeal, as the tribunals are in gneral not looking kindly at the DWP constantly transgressing their decisions.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Yeah, the claimants who are obviously fiddling or don't need the money
My friend luckily got to stay in Support Group I think, but said if they took her out, she wasn't going to appeal as she'd just had enough of the whole bollocks. She's fortunate in that her husband can afford to support her, and it's people like her who are contributing to the fall in numbers claiming, people who are sick of it, even if they genuinely aren't fit for work. The DWP must love her and others like her for contributing to their "people dropping their claim" figures
Sorry if that sounds garbled, I'm a bit busy
ash
Inittogether
Yeah, the claimants who are obviously fiddling or don't need the money
My friend luckily got to stay in Support Group I think, but said if they took her out, she wasn't going to appeal as she'd just had enough of the whole bollocks. She's fortunate in that her husband can afford to support her, and it's people like her who are contributing to the fall in numbers claiming, people who are sick of it, even if they genuinely aren't fit for work. The DWP must love her and others like her for contributing to their "people dropping their claim" figures
Sorry if that sounds garbled, I'm a bit busy
I agree the powers that be would have the attitude that if your friend can be supported by her husband then she doesn't need the money and isn't vulnerable, needy or poor which are words that we are hearing more and more, being disabled isn't enough these days. I wonder if we will get to the point when even the support group is means tested?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ash
Inittogether
But we shouldn't t feel that people have to justify their means. If your i friend came out of the support group she wouldn't (as far as I understand) be able to claim in the future as far as she would not be contributing NI contributions in the years prior to a future claim. In any case people who are too disabled to work should have their own money she shouldn't have to ask her husband for money to buy him a birthday present etc Eric
Frumious B.
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The coercion described by VP above is the lifeblood, the raison d'etre of all the changes in recent years. I see it as a criminal assault by the state, because it deliberately, knowingly makes people more ill and more disabled, forces them out of their homes and into hospitals, and in some cases causes them to take their own lives. The people at the top - especially Duncan Smith - know what's happening but they just keep ratcheting up the violence. He should be in a cell. Or given some disabling injuries.
put him and me in a room. give me a rope, a chair, and a stick with nails in. see what i do
Frumious B.
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I have devised a new way of murdering someone. It's nigh-on undetectable but you need to get within a foot of the victim. It could be used when a politician is out shaking hands and kissing babies. The victim would collapse almost instantly, so you'll probably be a suspect. The autopsy and your equipment would be enough to convict you. The equipment costs about £15 at Tesco. If I think hard enough perhaps I can come up with a way to use something which would vanish at the scene. Like that story where the police eat the murder weapon (a leg of lamb), only much quicker.put him and me in a room. give me a rope, a chair, and a stick with nails in. see what i do
been done, by alice sebold in 'the lovely bones' and probably one or more csi-type progs.
icicle
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
been done, by alice sebold in 'the lovely bones' and probably one or more csi-type progs.
icicle
I saw that episode
Frumious B.
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This is much subtler than an icicle.been done, by alice sebold in 'the lovely bones' and probably one or more csi-type progs.
icicle
Frumious B.
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OK! Maybe by then I will have tested it. I made a mental list of all my worst enemies and imagined being given a chance to kill them, with no comeback at all. But I let them all live. I just could never hurt anyone, much less kill them. I've never ever been in a fight, even as a schoolkid. I am Walter the Softy.
I just could never hurt anyone, much less kill them. I've never ever been in a fight, even as a schoolkid. I am Walter the Softy.
i've got a list of people i'm willing to experiment on. and am willing to do it For Science.OK! Maybe by then I will have tested it. I made a mental list of all my worst enemies and imagined being given a chance to kill them, with no comeback at all. But I let them all live.
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