they did, sent my original papers to the appeals team,
Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I expect it'll be all "well, she's got diabetes and holds down a job, so what's wrong with you workshy slackers that you can't?"
If anyone can direct me to the part is the work capability/atos medical/ESA50 where it refers to the repetition of movement and distance for walking?
I am looking myself but I am really distracted with pain and have a meeting tomorrow with someone willing to help with my appeal. I really need to be able to point him to these,
I am looking myself but I am really distracted with pain and have a meeting tomorrow with someone willing to help with my appeal. I really need to be able to point him to these,
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
You do know for DLA to PIP, they're going to change it to 20 metres?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Have just copied what I think you're after from the PDF. I'm fine. About to jump in a bath
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jul/31/atos-fitness-work-test-greg-wood
More from whistleblower Dr. Greg Wood about his resignation as an ATOS assessor. It seems he wasn't asked to falsify a patient's assessment, but was repeatedly ordered to do so in spite of the GMC policy expressly forbidding doctors from altering their reports and that they risk being disciplined if they do so.
More from whistleblower Dr. Greg Wood about his resignation as an ATOS assessor. It seems he wasn't asked to falsify a patient's assessment, but was repeatedly ordered to do so in spite of the GMC policy expressly forbidding doctors from altering their reports and that they risk being disciplined if they do so.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Good on him
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Now, with ATOS's seemingly standard policy of demanding its assessors falsify medical evidence, I wonder what would happen if I were to scan a doctor's letter into my computer, put it into Word and then rewrite bits of it at my convenience before submitting it as supporting evidence in a claim or related appeal..?
The DWP would be down on me like a ton of bricks, wouldn't they?
Yet it's seemingly perfectly OK with the DWP and ATOS that ATOS can quietly order their assessors to falsify a medical assessment which the DWP will then use as a reason for stopping or downgrading a claimant's benefit payments. And ATOS expect their assessors to risk disciplinary action from the General Medical Council in order to provide fraudulent and false evidence which, in the event of said evidence being proven to be deliberately falsified, ATOS and the DWP will then deny all knowledge and probably leave the assessor responsible high and dry in the event of disciplinary and/or criminal proceedings being brought against them.
The DWP would be down on me like a ton of bricks, wouldn't they?
Yet it's seemingly perfectly OK with the DWP and ATOS that ATOS can quietly order their assessors to falsify a medical assessment which the DWP will then use as a reason for stopping or downgrading a claimant's benefit payments. And ATOS expect their assessors to risk disciplinary action from the General Medical Council in order to provide fraudulent and false evidence which, in the event of said evidence being proven to be deliberately falsified, ATOS and the DWP will then deny all knowledge and probably leave the assessor responsible high and dry in the event of disciplinary and/or criminal proceedings being brought against them.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I had the statutory phonecall from JobCentre+ to tell me about the transition from Incapacity Benefit to ESA yesterday evening (about 6pm). Just the usual bollocks - pretty much a regurgitation of the 4 page letter they send. The bloke said "any questions?", so I asked "can you tell me what 'healthcare professional' means, please?". 
According to "John", healthcare professionals are mostly ("95%" apparently!) qualified doctors or nurses. Laugh? I did, quite sarcastically.
According to "John", healthcare professionals are mostly ("95%" apparently!) qualified doctors or nurses. Laugh? I did, quite sarcastically.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
After months of sorting out my mortgage payments with the DWP and filling in several M111 forms and having to make several phone calls to the idiots to sort their mess out I get a letter from my mortgage company this morning saying that from August I need to get all payments made into a different account number.
So I now need to get the idiots at the DWP to change where the money goes to which will probably cock the whole thing up again. 
As for the mortgage company , in their letter they say "We're telling you now so you have time to make these changes". It's a bit late telling people that the account number has changed on the 31st July when most mortgage payments go out on the 1st Aug.
So I now need to get the idiots at the DWP to change where the money goes to which will probably cock the whole thing up again. As for the mortgage company , in their letter they say "We're telling you now so you have time to make these changes". It's a bit late telling people that the account number has changed on the 31st July when most mortgage payments go out on the 1st Aug.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I had the statutory phonecall from JobCentre+ to tell me about the transition from Incapacity Benefit to ESA yesterday evening (about 6pm). Just the usual bollocks - pretty much a regurgitation of the 4 page letter they send. The bloke said "any questions?", so I asked "can you tell me what 'healthcare professional' means, please?".
According to "John", healthcare professionals are mostly ("95%" apparently!) qualified doctors or nurses. Laugh? I did, quite sarcastically.
95%
just spiderscrawled my 'esa1/ 04/13', need to scan it before posting, and reread the guidance notes to wok out if I need to send a sicknote now or later.
it begins
Hope it goes ok.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
just spiderscrawled my 'esa1/ 04/13', need to scan it before posting, and reread the guidance notes to wok out if I need to send a sicknote now or later.
it begins
That's a complete nightmare of a form.
Is that for a claimant making a new claim because I haven't had one, yet.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Here is the link to Greg Wood's blog. There's some interesting posts about the mistraining, the 'bogus rules of thumb', in the posts starting with the 2nd post 4th line down. They're short, well worth a read.
http://worktestwhistleblower.blogspot.co.uk/?view=flipcard
http://worktestwhistleblower.blogspot.co.uk/?view=flipcard
Frumious B.
Well-Known Member
How do we nominate Greg Wood for an OBE or something? For services to the disabled.
yeah, the initial form. i couldn't do a phone claim cause they fucked up closing my claim from last yearThat's a complete nightmare of a form.
so have to do a paper application instead. it's not the medical questionnaire (esa50, i think?). this one was twenty-something sections long (can't remember how many pages, and can't find the fucking thing now ) and only wanted brief details of illness, so i just put down what conditions/diagnoses i have - taht's all there was space for. haven't sent it off yet, mind - got three weeks to do that...thanks for the lucks, frances.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
yeah, the initial form. i couldn't do a phone claim cause they fucked up closing my claim from last year
thanks for the lucks, frances.
If you need any help, just shout. Also if you want to discuss any specifics, start a conversation with the people you want to talk it over with as this thread is publicly visible. I'll help if I can x
Had a meeting with the one person who has said they will support me and act as my advocate, we talked about what we were both writing to the DWP, we were to email each other our letters, he went home to write his this afternoon and I presume got swallowed by a black hole on his way home
I sent him mine about 8.30, it makes no real difference but he laid out the plan that he would send me his this evening for me to alter anthing I needed to and it woulld go in the post tomorrow morning.
That patience thing, I could do with some
I sent him mine about 8.30, it makes no real difference but he laid out the plan that he would send me his this evening for me to alter anthing I needed to and it woulld go in the post tomorrow morning.
That patience thing, I could do with some
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
He sent me a copy of his letter this morning, maybe it was as well as it made sobering reading, I re read mine and providing he has posted it appeal request is done. Just got this years ESA50 to fill in. I see you can do i online now, I'm having a day off from it all tomorrow.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I think that's a good idea, this stuff can be very draining. Don't forget to tell them just how draining it has been for you.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
More bad news for ATOS, the National Audit Office are taking an interest in them about their assessments:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...sickness-and-disability-benefits-8744254.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...sickness-and-disability-benefits-8744254.html
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Excellent....
audiotech
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It's worse than an "embarrassing shambles", as Greg Wood puts it and with no disrespect to Dr Wood it has been disabled people themselves who have fought long and hard who should be nominated for any award in exposing these profit motivated charlatans. The DWP are culpable too, as are this government and the previous bunch, headed by a liar in chief.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I've not read it, but the last encouraging news about ATOS wasn't really that encouraging as it wasn't the assessments/decisions themselves that were being slated, but more the paperwork, and the Government said the decisions were correct.
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