Dimitris
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Internet is not so anonymous as you think it is ..... "derf"
Athens Greece: Cops murder a 16 year old
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So you think being shot to death is an appropriate penalty for a child getting his dick out, even when bearing in mind the context of the incident?
So what about shouting at the police? Would that be worth a limb hacked off in your book? Or maybe a good kicking from the law?
Dimitris
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Since when did Alexis become a flasher??? there is nobody saying that not even the police themselves ....
According to the witnesses the cop was showing his genitals to the kids before the shooting...
Even though calling a murdered kid as a cunt, and a numerous other insults that I cannot even describe, shows at least disrespect towards him ...
According to the witnesses the cop was showing his genitals to the kids before the shooting...
Even though calling a murdered kid as a cunt, and a numerous other insults that I cannot even describe, shows at least disrespect towards him ...
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
Global day of action against state terrorism
Two weeks after the state murder of comrade Alexandros Grigoropoulos, the social and class counter-attack continues.
University facilities and public buildings remain occupied, whilst mobilisations, demonstrations and confrontations with the uniformed guardians of order continue to take place on the streets, throughout Greece, on a daily basis.
Up until Wednesday 17 December, 16 of those arrested during the rebellious events of December have been imprisoned facing grave charges and 4 of them are persecuted according the "anti"terrorist law. Hundreds of people have been arrested all over the country. In Athens alone 184 people have been arrested, whilst more than 30 immigrants are being detained.
The events that took place following the murder of Alexandros Grigoropoulos started a wave of worldwide mobilisations in his memory and in solidarity with those rebels fighting in the streets against democratic totalitarianism. Gatherings, marches, symbolic attacks on Greek consulates, as well as confrontations with the police, have taken place in cities across Cyprus, Germany, Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Mexico, Belgium, the United States of America, Turkey, Ireland, Switzerland, Croatia, Australia, Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, France, Poland, Argentina, Chile, Canada, Uruguay, Austria, New Zealand, Portugal, South Korea, Basque Country and elsewhere.
We continue the occupation of the Athens Polytechnic School that started on the evening of December 6th, creating a space for everyone involved in the struggle and providing a steady point of resistance within the city of Athens.
Following a collective decision of the occupied Polytechnics general assembly on Saturday 13/12, we called for global actions against state terrorism on Saturday 20/12. Because we do not forget and we do not forgive. Because the use of murderous violence by the state and bosses against those that struggle is not a localized phenomenon but rather a universal suffocating reality. Because zero tolerance and repressive terrorism, wage slavery, poverty and social exclusion, exploitation, oppression and social control are not constrained by borders but neither is the struggle for freedom.
The rebellion that lit up this miserable world with its flames, continues!
Immediate release of all who are being detained by the police.
Solidarity with everyone facing persecution.
Solidarity with everyone around the world who uses any means to spread the message of rebellion!
Gathering at the site of Alexis Grigoropoulos murder.
Saturday 20/12, 9pm.
The Occupation of the Polytechnic University in Athens
Two weeks after the state murder of comrade Alexandros Grigoropoulos, the social and class counter-attack continues.
University facilities and public buildings remain occupied, whilst mobilisations, demonstrations and confrontations with the uniformed guardians of order continue to take place on the streets, throughout Greece, on a daily basis.
Up until Wednesday 17 December, 16 of those arrested during the rebellious events of December have been imprisoned facing grave charges and 4 of them are persecuted according the "anti"terrorist law. Hundreds of people have been arrested all over the country. In Athens alone 184 people have been arrested, whilst more than 30 immigrants are being detained.
The events that took place following the murder of Alexandros Grigoropoulos started a wave of worldwide mobilisations in his memory and in solidarity with those rebels fighting in the streets against democratic totalitarianism. Gatherings, marches, symbolic attacks on Greek consulates, as well as confrontations with the police, have taken place in cities across Cyprus, Germany, Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Mexico, Belgium, the United States of America, Turkey, Ireland, Switzerland, Croatia, Australia, Russia, Bulgaria, Italy, France, Poland, Argentina, Chile, Canada, Uruguay, Austria, New Zealand, Portugal, South Korea, Basque Country and elsewhere.
We continue the occupation of the Athens Polytechnic School that started on the evening of December 6th, creating a space for everyone involved in the struggle and providing a steady point of resistance within the city of Athens.
Following a collective decision of the occupied Polytechnics general assembly on Saturday 13/12, we called for global actions against state terrorism on Saturday 20/12. Because we do not forget and we do not forgive. Because the use of murderous violence by the state and bosses against those that struggle is not a localized phenomenon but rather a universal suffocating reality. Because zero tolerance and repressive terrorism, wage slavery, poverty and social exclusion, exploitation, oppression and social control are not constrained by borders but neither is the struggle for freedom.
The rebellion that lit up this miserable world with its flames, continues!
Immediate release of all who are being detained by the police.
Solidarity with everyone facing persecution.
Solidarity with everyone around the world who uses any means to spread the message of rebellion!
Gathering at the site of Alexis Grigoropoulos murder.
Saturday 20/12, 9pm.
The Occupation of the Polytechnic University in Athens
Let's just all believe the shit the state tells us. Let's all believe the shite the mainstream media tells us.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
http://www.tvxs.gr/v2043
Today it was a concert day for Athens... thousands attended at a big concert that took place at Propylaia, in the centre of Athens. More than 60 singers and groups played at a music demo that started from 15:00 and ended close to 22:00 ... The crowd was massive, Panepistimiou str had to be blocked because of too many people. You can see a video on the link above.
Personally I did not attend, I do not feel like I want to go to a concert after all this that has happened during the last 14 days ....
Tomorrow as you can see and on the polytechinc announcement, there is a gathering at the site of Alexis murder... I am going to attend that. A lot of solidarity demos pickets and actions are going to take place all over the world tomorrow as it is named global resistance day.
So people of the world...... GET ON THE STREETS !!!
Today it was a concert day for Athens... thousands attended at a big concert that took place at Propylaia, in the centre of Athens. More than 60 singers and groups played at a music demo that started from 15:00 and ended close to 22:00 ... The crowd was massive, Panepistimiou str had to be blocked because of too many people. You can see a video on the link above.
Personally I did not attend, I do not feel like I want to go to a concert after all this that has happened during the last 14 days ....
Tomorrow as you can see and on the polytechinc announcement, there is a gathering at the site of Alexis murder... I am going to attend that. A lot of solidarity demos pickets and actions are going to take place all over the world tomorrow as it is named global resistance day.
So people of the world...... GET ON THE STREETS !!!
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
A better news update from yesterday
In the morning, the kids from the schools of Peristeri, where the second 16year old was shot 2 days ago, had a solidarity gathering and demonstration. Students also held a demonstration in Piraeus.
In the afternoon from 3pm till very late at night, a big open-air solidarity/benefit show at Propylea took place. A big number of artists and bands were playing and thousand of people attended.
Some photos of the show: http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950727#951302
Around midday, 20-40 people attacked the French Cultural Institute in Athens and a nearby bank and wrote slogan on the walls such as: "Spark in Athens. Fire in Paris. Insurrection is coming" and "France, Greece, uprising everywhere". This act was in solidarity with the arrestees there (accused for solidarity acts and sabotage of the railways) and the French students who are in the streets too these days.
In the evening, in Aigaleo, 100 anarchists demonstrated. They broke many bank windows and their surveillance cameras, wrote slogans on the walls and attacked the two riot squads in front of the local police station.
Moreover, during the premier of a play in a central theater, 40 people got on stage and unfolded a banner that read “Everyone on the streets, Free all the arrested now”. They left shortly after while some of the attendants applauded.
A demonstrations took place in Lamia and a gathering in Larissa.
In Chania, a group of 50 people occupied a local tv station and played a 20 minute long video about the killing and the events that are following and then left.
In Giannena a solidarity show took place. In the same city, during the small hours of Friday, two banks were attacked, one of which inside the university.
Arson attacks also happened in Kavala and Aigio. Two cars were set alight in Thessaloniki and two in Patras.
Some major news-websites today insist that one of the cars burnt in Patras is the car of Athanasios Melistas, the cop which shot in the back of the head and killed the 15 year Mihali Kalteza at Exarchia in 1985. The killing was followed by heavy riots and social revolt, just like today and the cop then was set free by the “justice” system. For 2 decades now rumors are going around about where Melistas is, some say that he had left the country. If the car was his and if he now lives in Patras is still unknown.
The students don't seem to plan to go back to the classrooms any time soon. According to OLME (the syndicate of school teachers), 800 schools across the country are occupied by the pupils.
The tactic that the police follows in every demonstration is the same: They throw large amounts of chemical gas and when the protesters and passersby try to escape from the gas, struggling to get some air, the riot squads attack and arrest anybody. Usually the ones who get arrested are not the fighting ones but those who stayed behind because they know that they've done nothing wrong. But the cops don't care about that. Later the cops agree with each other and give identical testifies against the arrestees, saying that they were caught while throwing rocks and molotov coctails. The charges held against the arrestees are very severe and are not based on any evidence, just on the false testifies by the cops. One of the victims of this tactic, was arrested after the demonstration in Athens that took place on Thursday. The 23 year old man was arrested and heavily beaten by the cops (he was carried to the hospital later) and he is now facing severe felony charges. This is one of the hundreds similar cases but the difference is that the man mentioned is doing his military (mandatory for every greek man). There are at least 3 eyewitnesses which are saying that he was just observing the fights and he was trying to get away from the chemicals that the cops threw when he was arrested and brutally beaten.
During the big demonstration on Thursday, photographers caught the riot police spraying with teargas an elderly passerby lady: http://katalipsisxolistheatrou.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_19.html
Photos of the big concert that took place in Thessaloniki on Thursday: http://katalipsisxolistheatrou.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_952.html
In the morning, the kids from the schools of Peristeri, where the second 16year old was shot 2 days ago, had a solidarity gathering and demonstration. Students also held a demonstration in Piraeus.
In the afternoon from 3pm till very late at night, a big open-air solidarity/benefit show at Propylea took place. A big number of artists and bands were playing and thousand of people attended.
Some photos of the show: http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950727#951302
Around midday, 20-40 people attacked the French Cultural Institute in Athens and a nearby bank and wrote slogan on the walls such as: "Spark in Athens. Fire in Paris. Insurrection is coming" and "France, Greece, uprising everywhere". This act was in solidarity with the arrestees there (accused for solidarity acts and sabotage of the railways) and the French students who are in the streets too these days.
In the evening, in Aigaleo, 100 anarchists demonstrated. They broke many bank windows and their surveillance cameras, wrote slogans on the walls and attacked the two riot squads in front of the local police station.
Moreover, during the premier of a play in a central theater, 40 people got on stage and unfolded a banner that read “Everyone on the streets, Free all the arrested now”. They left shortly after while some of the attendants applauded.
A demonstrations took place in Lamia and a gathering in Larissa.
In Chania, a group of 50 people occupied a local tv station and played a 20 minute long video about the killing and the events that are following and then left.
In Giannena a solidarity show took place. In the same city, during the small hours of Friday, two banks were attacked, one of which inside the university.
Arson attacks also happened in Kavala and Aigio. Two cars were set alight in Thessaloniki and two in Patras.
Some major news-websites today insist that one of the cars burnt in Patras is the car of Athanasios Melistas, the cop which shot in the back of the head and killed the 15 year Mihali Kalteza at Exarchia in 1985. The killing was followed by heavy riots and social revolt, just like today and the cop then was set free by the “justice” system. For 2 decades now rumors are going around about where Melistas is, some say that he had left the country. If the car was his and if he now lives in Patras is still unknown.
The students don't seem to plan to go back to the classrooms any time soon. According to OLME (the syndicate of school teachers), 800 schools across the country are occupied by the pupils.
The tactic that the police follows in every demonstration is the same: They throw large amounts of chemical gas and when the protesters and passersby try to escape from the gas, struggling to get some air, the riot squads attack and arrest anybody. Usually the ones who get arrested are not the fighting ones but those who stayed behind because they know that they've done nothing wrong. But the cops don't care about that. Later the cops agree with each other and give identical testifies against the arrestees, saying that they were caught while throwing rocks and molotov coctails. The charges held against the arrestees are very severe and are not based on any evidence, just on the false testifies by the cops. One of the victims of this tactic, was arrested after the demonstration in Athens that took place on Thursday. The 23 year old man was arrested and heavily beaten by the cops (he was carried to the hospital later) and he is now facing severe felony charges. This is one of the hundreds similar cases but the difference is that the man mentioned is doing his military (mandatory for every greek man). There are at least 3 eyewitnesses which are saying that he was just observing the fights and he was trying to get away from the chemicals that the cops threw when he was arrested and brutally beaten.
During the big demonstration on Thursday, photographers caught the riot police spraying with teargas an elderly passerby lady: http://katalipsisxolistheatrou.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_19.html
Photos of the big concert that took place in Thessaloniki on Thursday: http://katalipsisxolistheatrou.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_952.html
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
I will continue showing you similar videos like the one that is following because in this way you can really see how greek police works.
Greek police together with their friends here, in Exarchia....
Are these guys policemen? They may be... or they maybe fascists. The fact remains that the police uses such methods to infiltrate in the demos and create trouble.... These men they end up arresting people who are just watching or passing by, and then charge everything on them..
Something similar happened and on the following video... This young teenager, Dimitris, was there watching what was happening and taking videos with his mobile phone, and was attacked and arrested by MAT.. He is now charged with possession of explosive bombs, arson attempt, resistance to authority and a number of other felonies... If all these charges remain, this teenager may remain even more than 15 years in prison.
The video is here
http://www.tvxs.gr/v1953
Greek police together with their friends here, in Exarchia....
Are these guys policemen? They may be... or they maybe fascists. The fact remains that the police uses such methods to infiltrate in the demos and create trouble.... These men they end up arresting people who are just watching or passing by, and then charge everything on them..
Something similar happened and on the following video... This young teenager, Dimitris, was there watching what was happening and taking videos with his mobile phone, and was attacked and arrested by MAT.. He is now charged with possession of explosive bombs, arson attempt, resistance to authority and a number of other felonies... If all these charges remain, this teenager may remain even more than 15 years in prison.
The video is here
http://www.tvxs.gr/v1953
some info about solidarity with the Greek uprising , 48+ events on global day of action. from indymedia athens, the page is translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951373
solidarity from Germany (Hanover)
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950985
solidarity from Seoul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950812
from yesterday French institute attacked, photo + page translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951403
solidarity from San Francisco http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/12/18/greekdemo_1.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950671
solidarity from Portugal
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950804
http://anarcores.blogspot.com/ Photos
from New York to Greece solidarity
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950757
Solidarity from Amsterdam Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950745
solidarity from Helsinki Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950666
from the committee of Greeks in Zurich for solidarity to the Greek uprising
Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950646
solidarity from North America
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950637
solidarity from Slovakia
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950626
photos http://www.crimethinc.cz/g28-recko-solidarita.html
solidarity from Istanbul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950456
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952127
solidarity from the Basque region
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950276
Solidarity from Edinburg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950304
solidarity from Italy, March , Photos from the Greek consulate-Italy
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951872
Solidarity from Turks and Kurds outside the Greek Consulate in Istanbul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951375
Solidarity from Hamburg, Munich, Copenhagen, Frankfurt and Brazil // Solidarity demo in Melburne http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952058
, Luxenburg, Mexico, Spain
and Reykjavik(Iceland) http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951946
All the links from Indy Media Athens
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&cat=2&n_lang=1
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951373
solidarity from Germany (Hanover)
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950985
solidarity from Seoul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950812
from yesterday French institute attacked, photo + page translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951403
solidarity from San Francisco http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/12/18/greekdemo_1.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950671
solidarity from Portugal
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950804
http://anarcores.blogspot.com/ Photos
from New York to Greece solidarity
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950757
Solidarity from Amsterdam Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950745
solidarity from Helsinki Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950666
from the committee of Greeks in Zurich for solidarity to the Greek uprising
Photos, page not translated
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950646
solidarity from North America
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950637
solidarity from Slovakia
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950626
photos http://www.crimethinc.cz/g28-recko-solidarita.html
solidarity from Istanbul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950456
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952127
solidarity from the Basque region
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950276
Solidarity from Edinburg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=950304
solidarity from Italy, March , Photos from the Greek consulate-Italy
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951872
Solidarity from Turks and Kurds outside the Greek Consulate in Istanbul
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951375
Solidarity from Hamburg, Munich, Copenhagen, Frankfurt and Brazil // Solidarity demo in Melburne http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952058
, Luxenburg, Mexico, Spain
and Reykjavik(Iceland) http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951946
All the links from Indy Media Athens
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&cat=2&n_lang=1
some updates (20/12)
-Attacks against riot squads (MAT) at the Ministry of Culture/ They responded by drowning the area with chemicals
-from the Polytechnic University/ Cops have surrounded people that came down to the site where Alexis was murdered. At this time (11.15 pm) there are a lot of people inside the uni and the outside streets all the way up to Exarhia square. The cops are throwing often very strong chemicals. The comrades are responding with molotov cocktails / The clashes have reached Patission str
-From the assembly at Javela str & Messologgiou , the place where Alexis Grigoropoulos was murdered 15 days ago : There is a very big crowd shouting slogans against the cops - at the surrounding streets riot squads
-Fire / Arson attack at the Teiresias' building (Department of the Finance Ministry)-about 7.13 pm
From IndyMedia Athens http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&cat=1&n_lang=1
-From the live stream of the taken over Polytechnic University :
"These are the days and nights of Alexis. The rage does not diminish. 15 days after Alexis murder fire everywhere sets light to the night and the surrounding streets from the murder site.
-Stournari street
-Kanniggos square
- Pattision str
-Solonos str
-Averof str
-Tositsa str
-George str and the surrounding streets all the way up to Exarhia square
from the balconies in Exarhia people are shouting at the cops and throwing things against them - from IndyMedia Athens
"... Self Organization.
Free all the comrades arrested during the riots "- from the live stream from the taken over Polytechnic http://147.102.219.129:8000/
at the end of the page there is a video from tonight's clashes (20/12) from the area where Alexis was murdered
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951932
-From the live stream "... every 5 minutes the cops are throwing tear gas, flash grenades and very strong chemicals, the atmosphere is too heavy and misty from the chemicals, clashes all around the Polytechnic, At the Polytechnic the rabies met with consciousness "
-from the live stream "everyone inside the Polytechnic is fine, around it though there are many riot squads/ in Patission str there are at least 6 riot squads/ a lot of people have taken shelter inside the taken over building of GSEE in Patission st and at the taken over uni of ASOE a bit futher down in Patission st"
zougla.gr has put again its live feed from Patission str(in front of the Polytechnic uni)(it is out of focus, intentionally?maybe some other people are recording ?)
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:32322.asx?prop=e
-Attacks against riot squads (MAT) at the Ministry of Culture/ They responded by drowning the area with chemicals
-from the Polytechnic University/ Cops have surrounded people that came down to the site where Alexis was murdered. At this time (11.15 pm) there are a lot of people inside the uni and the outside streets all the way up to Exarhia square. The cops are throwing often very strong chemicals. The comrades are responding with molotov cocktails / The clashes have reached Patission str
-From the assembly at Javela str & Messologgiou , the place where Alexis Grigoropoulos was murdered 15 days ago : There is a very big crowd shouting slogans against the cops - at the surrounding streets riot squads
-Fire / Arson attack at the Teiresias' building (Department of the Finance Ministry)-about 7.13 pm
From IndyMedia Athens http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&cat=1&n_lang=1
-From the live stream of the taken over Polytechnic University :
"These are the days and nights of Alexis. The rage does not diminish. 15 days after Alexis murder fire everywhere sets light to the night and the surrounding streets from the murder site.
-Stournari street
-Kanniggos square
- Pattision str
-Solonos str
-Averof str
-Tositsa str
-George str and the surrounding streets all the way up to Exarhia square
from the balconies in Exarhia people are shouting at the cops and throwing things against them - from IndyMedia Athens
"... Self Organization.
Free all the comrades arrested during the riots "- from the live stream from the taken over Polytechnic http://147.102.219.129:8000/
at the end of the page there is a video from tonight's clashes (20/12) from the area where Alexis was murdered
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951932
-From the live stream "... every 5 minutes the cops are throwing tear gas, flash grenades and very strong chemicals, the atmosphere is too heavy and misty from the chemicals, clashes all around the Polytechnic, At the Polytechnic the rabies met with consciousness "
-from the live stream "everyone inside the Polytechnic is fine, around it though there are many riot squads/ in Patission str there are at least 6 riot squads/ a lot of people have taken shelter inside the taken over building of GSEE in Patission st and at the taken over uni of ASOE a bit futher down in Patission st"
zougla.gr has put again its live feed from Patission str(in front of the Polytechnic uni)(it is out of focus, intentionally?maybe some other people are recording ?)
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:32322.asx?prop=e
assemblies/ demos around Greece + incidents/ clashes
-Edessa assembly
-Naxos (Island) poster at central sites of the city http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951901
-Piraeus incidents ? between football fans /police arrives
-Brahami (Athens suburb) disruption and giving out leaflets
-Nea Smirni (Athens suburb) Demo,some pass-byers joined, slogans also written on banks along the demo, 1 ATM smashed, transport and bank's CCV painted
-Ioannina take over of radio station for about 30 minutes, at the street speeches + statements from taken over ASOE, GSEE and Polytechnic were read / different decoration of a xmas tree at Ioannina http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951866
-Agios Panteleimonas (area of Athens) incidents at a supermarket / police arrived
-Kamara (area in Thessaloniki) Assembly, banners, 2 different leaflets were given out + newspapers , speeches photos http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951724
-Kavala (area in the north of Greece) arson attack on a car
-Petralona (area in Athens) Demo, slogans also written along the demo, take over of the area around the Cultural Centre "Melina Merkouri", then temporary the radio station Athens 984 Photos http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951679
Syndagma incidents while protesters were placing rubbish on/around the new xmas tree , video http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/mvi_0337.avi
/ riot squads arrive, tear gas thrown /video with the first arrests from Syndagma http://prezatv.blogspot.com/2008/12/video_5221.html
-Vironas (suburb of Athens) assembly, demo
-Edessa assembly
-Naxos (Island) poster at central sites of the city http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951901
-Piraeus incidents ? between football fans /police arrives
-Brahami (Athens suburb) disruption and giving out leaflets
-Nea Smirni (Athens suburb) Demo,some pass-byers joined, slogans also written on banks along the demo, 1 ATM smashed, transport and bank's CCV painted
-Ioannina take over of radio station for about 30 minutes, at the street speeches + statements from taken over ASOE, GSEE and Polytechnic were read / different decoration of a xmas tree at Ioannina http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951866
-Agios Panteleimonas (area of Athens) incidents at a supermarket / police arrived
-Kamara (area in Thessaloniki) Assembly, banners, 2 different leaflets were given out + newspapers , speeches photos http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951724
-Kavala (area in the north of Greece) arson attack on a car
-Petralona (area in Athens) Demo, slogans also written along the demo, take over of the area around the Cultural Centre "Melina Merkouri", then temporary the radio station Athens 984 Photos http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=951679
Syndagma incidents while protesters were placing rubbish on/around the new xmas tree , video http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/mvi_0337.avi
/ riot squads arrive, tear gas thrown /video with the first arrests from Syndagma http://prezatv.blogspot.com/2008/12/video_5221.html
-Vironas (suburb of Athens) assembly, demo
So does that mean you are going to pop over to Indonesia and protest my attitude about pervy flashers or left wing pillocks or perhaps you would like to toss a petrol bomb into my wife's shop.
I'm sure that is a perfectly valid political tool as is threats issued by a soft cunt with even softer political ideals.
When argument fails threaten violence. Typical of the daft cunts on the left.
So froggy if you saw a kid flashing in the street what would you call him?
Did i say that?
No I said that he was stupid to do as he did in an area known for petrol bomb ambush attacks on the police. A group of kids stones the cops as is common by all accounts and the police tried to warn them off with a shot that bounced off a wall and killed the flasher.
Didn't say he actually deserved killing but I did say it was his own stupidity and bad luck that got him killed.
The riots are all down to this and the lies by the eye witnesses that claimed the cops shot him directly.
We are yet to find out the history of the kid himself. It seems he left school a year or so ago but no one seems to be able to say what he has been doing since.
I'm only guessing but I'll bety when it comes out he has a long criminal record for theft and violence and no schooling at all for a while.
Or is an assumption like that going to upset the commies who are quite happy to assume murder by a police force composed entirely of fascists but don't want a word said against a pervert who's hobby seems to be flashing his wedding tackle off to coppers?
This story sticks to high heaven. We have already seen evidence proving that the eye witnesses lied, next will be the history of the dead kid.
Still I'll bet the commies try to keep it quiet as it will show what a fuch of fucking idiots they are.
editor
hiraethified
No. Your vile bigotry, unsupported slurs and enthusiastic support for fascist police tactics is what stinks around here.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
When argument fails threaten violence. Typical of the daft cunts on the left.
Stuck, record.
Leaving aside the fact that you have no way of knowing this, just blind prejudice, it doesn't matter. Tragic as Alexandros' death was, it's not really about him.
Dimitris
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Hello all, I have just retuned. I am not very calm at the moment in order to give you a good description of last night, but I will try....
Stella did a very good coverage of what happened yesterday, it is not my intention to repeat all the same again.
There was a gathering last night at the point that Alexis was murdered. Thousands attended, in order to pay a tribute to the murdered Alexis... Police presence was big, on a lot of streets around Exarchia, there were so many people on the streets and the balconies though, that it was difficult for them to be as active as they wanted.... Clashes against the police did start though, at various points in Exarchia and mainly around the taken over Polytechnic building... A lot of us got in the polytechnic, also a lot of people went to the taken over GSEE, Law Dept and ASOEE buildings. Clashes against the police around the polytechnic continued until late at night.
EVERYBODY in Exarchia were out in the streets or on the balconies, AGAINST the police.... You could see people from the balconies throwing things against them, public on the streets shouting at them... The cops used again massive ammounts of chemicals, especially around the polytechnic, some very very strong ones.. I have allready spoken about those on a previous post, I dont want to repeat again.... The only thing I can say is that I am not feeling so well for one more day.
There were rumors yesterday that the police surrounded us, that there was no access to Exarchia at all, to the square or the murder point etc... ALL THESE ARE PROPAGANDA. Yes there was police presence, yes there were riots especially after the end of the gathering around the polytechnic, but in no way all Exarchia were closed by police... The people of Exarchia would never leave this to happen and did not happen yesterday.
Who ever things that this uprising has finished, has no idea what is happening here. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGGINING
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF ALEXIS.
Stella did a very good coverage of what happened yesterday, it is not my intention to repeat all the same again.
There was a gathering last night at the point that Alexis was murdered. Thousands attended, in order to pay a tribute to the murdered Alexis... Police presence was big, on a lot of streets around Exarchia, there were so many people on the streets and the balconies though, that it was difficult for them to be as active as they wanted.... Clashes against the police did start though, at various points in Exarchia and mainly around the taken over Polytechnic building... A lot of us got in the polytechnic, also a lot of people went to the taken over GSEE, Law Dept and ASOEE buildings. Clashes against the police around the polytechnic continued until late at night.
EVERYBODY in Exarchia were out in the streets or on the balconies, AGAINST the police.... You could see people from the balconies throwing things against them, public on the streets shouting at them... The cops used again massive ammounts of chemicals, especially around the polytechnic, some very very strong ones.. I have allready spoken about those on a previous post, I dont want to repeat again.... The only thing I can say is that I am not feeling so well for one more day.
There were rumors yesterday that the police surrounded us, that there was no access to Exarchia at all, to the square or the murder point etc... ALL THESE ARE PROPAGANDA. Yes there was police presence, yes there were riots especially after the end of the gathering around the polytechnic, but in no way all Exarchia were closed by police... The people of Exarchia would never leave this to happen and did not happen yesterday.
Who ever things that this uprising has finished, has no idea what is happening here. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGGINING
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF ALEXIS.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
This morning, an examination at the murder point of Alexis took place. Police investigators was there, together with lawyers of Alexis family and some of the eye witnesses that have testified. The 2 cops that are now in prison were not transfered there, in order possible problems and riots to be prevented. Of course to examine the area now, 15 days after the murder, when thousands have passed from there in order to leave a flower, and after the last night's gathering and riots, I dont know what will achieve but it is possible to give to the investigators a better understanding of what happened that night.
From the ballistic report and from the examination of Alexis body, a clear conclusion is that the shot was not on the air. The bullet passed from Alexis from top to bottom, something that can be explained because of the heigh difference of the cop and the kid ...So we are not talking about a warning shot. Foreighn material was found on the bullet, but no paint on it so it did not hit on a wall before... There is a possibility that it bounced on the pavement, but how could this happen and then the bullet to go to Alexis body with such direction ??? This is what they were trying to find out this morning, where it could possibly bounce ....
One more info for you.... When i was in the army, for 6 months I was at a small camp near the borders with Turkey, near the river Evros.. We were patrolling the river there, and always live bullets were given to us and we were free to shoot whenever we wanted. A lot of soldiers were randomly shooting birds etc there... WE WERE ALL TOLD THOUGH, TO HIT OUR BULLETS TO SOMETHING CONCRETE BEFORE PUTTING THEM ON THE GUN.... Why? Because if there was an accident, and someone got injured.. the bullet "bounced" .....
As far as I know, policemen also know this trick.
From the ballistic report and from the examination of Alexis body, a clear conclusion is that the shot was not on the air. The bullet passed from Alexis from top to bottom, something that can be explained because of the heigh difference of the cop and the kid ...So we are not talking about a warning shot. Foreighn material was found on the bullet, but no paint on it so it did not hit on a wall before... There is a possibility that it bounced on the pavement, but how could this happen and then the bullet to go to Alexis body with such direction ??? This is what they were trying to find out this morning, where it could possibly bounce ....
One more info for you.... When i was in the army, for 6 months I was at a small camp near the borders with Turkey, near the river Evros.. We were patrolling the river there, and always live bullets were given to us and we were free to shoot whenever we wanted. A lot of soldiers were randomly shooting birds etc there... WE WERE ALL TOLD THOUGH, TO HIT OUR BULLETS TO SOMETHING CONCRETE BEFORE PUTTING THEM ON THE GUN.... Why? Because if there was an accident, and someone got injured.. the bullet "bounced" .....
As far as I know, policemen also know this trick.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
Just been looking at the live feed and the music emanating from the square at the moment is: 'all I want for xmas is my two front teeth'. 
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
Dimitris
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http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952435
The Building of Teiresias on fire..... Teiresias is an organization that keeps record of all the unpaid checks, loans, credit cards etc .... It is the black list of the banks, if you get written on that list (because you are unable to pay) you cannot then take a loan or a cheque book or a credit card. Thousands will be glad to hear that Teiresias is burned
The Building of Teiresias on fire..... Teiresias is an organization that keeps record of all the unpaid checks, loans, credit cards etc .... It is the black list of the banks, if you get written on that list (because you are unable to pay) you cannot then take a loan or a cheque book or a credit card. Thousands will be glad to hear that Teiresias is burned
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=952435
The Building of Teiresias on fire..... Teiresias is an organization that keeps record of all the unpaid checks, loans, credit cards etc .... It is the black list of the banks, if you get written on that list (because you are unable to pay) you cannot then take a loan or a cheque book or a credit card. Thousands will be glad to hear that Teiresias is burned
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yes here is a Guardian article that mentions the burning of the credit checking agency, as well as police trying to protect the new Christmas tree whilst protesters danced round them:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/21/greece-protests-athens-violence
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/21/greece-protests-athens-violence
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