Athens Greece: Cops murder a 16 year old
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Dimitris
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This is what I reported you here a few days ago... notice the part in bold.
Now watch this video.
This was broadcasted about half an hour ago at a big nationwide TV channel here in Greece. This TV show is one of the most popular shows in Greece, the man that you see is a comedian, but he is also serious when needed.
You may not understand greek, but you will be blind if not see and understand, that the subject here is that police seems to be cooperating with some unknwon men, who dress and look like anarchists. You can clearly see, men with covered faces and clubs, discussing with police men before the demonstrations. These are exactly the ones, that on Monday the 8th of December, were coming behind police lines, breaking up shops (only shops) and then returning back behind the police...
Our state is currently compensating the bussinessmen and shop owners for the damages made... the damages that the state themselves did but blamed others.
I had to edit because the previous uploader removed the video from youtube. Hopefully this one will not ....
police to investigate Greek Embassy incident in which journalists were obstructed in their work
a video about this
http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1029
and the statement from the Metropolitan Police
http://marcvallee.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/police-to-investigate-greek-embassy-incident/
it took them about a week, it seems authority's procrastination is a common thing, it took them 6 days to apologize about Alexis death, and still no one has lost their comfortable position
a video about this
http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1029
and the statement from the Metropolitan Police
http://marcvallee.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/police-to-investigate-greek-embassy-incident/
it took them about a week, it seems authority's procrastination is a common thing, it took them 6 days to apologize about Alexis death, and still no one has lost their comfortable position
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
some very good photos here: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/2008_greek_riots.html
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Just been sent this, GSEE = General Confederation of Workers in Greece
Since 8 o'clock in the morning the building of GSEE (Patision and Alexandras) is occupied.
We declare the building a Liberated Workers' Zone.
Open Workers' Assembly at 18.00
The Building is open to all workers all day long.
--DECLARATION--
We will either determine our history ourselves
or let it be determined without us
We, manual workers, employees, jobless, temporary workers, local or migrants, are not passive tv-viewers. Since the murder of Alexandros Grigoropoulos on Saturday night we participate in the demonstrations, the clashes with the police, the occupations of the centre or the neighborhoods. Time and again we had to leave work and our daily obligations to take the streets with the students, the university students and the other proletarians in struggle.
WE DECIDED TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING OF GSEE
-To turn it into a space of free _expression and a meeting point of workers.
-To disperse the media-touted myth that the workers were and are absent from the clashes, and that the rage of these days was an affair of some 500 "mask-bearers", "hooligans" or some other fairy tale, while on the tv-screens the workers were presented as victims of the clash, while the capitalist crisis in Greece and Worldwide leads to countless layoffs that the media and their managers deal as a "natural phenomenon".
-To flay and uncover the role of the trade union bureaucracy in the undermining of the insurrection -and not only there. GSEE and the entire trade union mechanism that supports it for decades and decades, undermine the struggles, bargain our labor power for crumblings, perpetuate the system of exploitation and wage slavery. The stance of GSEE last Wednesday is quite telling: GSEE cancelled the programmed strikers' demonstration, stopping short at the organization of a brief gathering in Syntagma Sq., making simultaneously sure that the people will be dispersed in a hurry from the Square, fearing that they might get infected by the virus of insurrection.
-To open up this space for the first time -as a continuation of the social opening created by the insurrection itself-, a space that has been built by our contributions, a space from which we were excluded. For all these years we trusted our fate on saviours of every kind, and we end up losing our dignity. As workers we have to start assuming our responsibilities, and to stop assigning our hopes to wise leaders or "able" representatives. We have to acquire a voice of our own, to meet up, to talk, to decide, and to act. Against the generalized attack we endure. The creation of collective "grassroot" resistances is the only way.
-To propagate the idea of self-organization and solidarity in working places, struggle committees and collective grassroot procedures, abolishing the bureaucrat trade unionists.
All these years we gulp the misery, the pandering, the violence in work. We became accustomed to counting the crippled and our dead - the so-called "labor accidents". We became accustomed to ingore the migrants -our class brothers- getting killed. We are tired living with the anxiety of securing a wage, revenue stamps, and a pension that now feels like a distant dream.
As we struggle not to abandon our life in the hands of the bosses and the trade union representatives, likewise we will not abandon no arrested insurgent in the hands of the state and the juridical mechanism.
IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THE DETAINED
NO CHARGE TO THE ARRESTED
SELF-ORGANIZATION OF THE WORKERS
GENERAL STRIKE
WORKERS' ASSEMBLY IN THE "LIBERATED" BUILDING OF GSEE
Wendesday, 17 December 2008, 18:00
General Assembly of Insurgent Workers
Since 8 o'clock in the morning the building of GSEE (Patision and Alexandras) is occupied.
We declare the building a Liberated Workers' Zone.
Open Workers' Assembly at 18.00
The Building is open to all workers all day long.
--DECLARATION--
We will either determine our history ourselves
or let it be determined without us
We, manual workers, employees, jobless, temporary workers, local or migrants, are not passive tv-viewers. Since the murder of Alexandros Grigoropoulos on Saturday night we participate in the demonstrations, the clashes with the police, the occupations of the centre or the neighborhoods. Time and again we had to leave work and our daily obligations to take the streets with the students, the university students and the other proletarians in struggle.
WE DECIDED TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING OF GSEE
-To turn it into a space of free _expression and a meeting point of workers.
-To disperse the media-touted myth that the workers were and are absent from the clashes, and that the rage of these days was an affair of some 500 "mask-bearers", "hooligans" or some other fairy tale, while on the tv-screens the workers were presented as victims of the clash, while the capitalist crisis in Greece and Worldwide leads to countless layoffs that the media and their managers deal as a "natural phenomenon".
-To flay and uncover the role of the trade union bureaucracy in the undermining of the insurrection -and not only there. GSEE and the entire trade union mechanism that supports it for decades and decades, undermine the struggles, bargain our labor power for crumblings, perpetuate the system of exploitation and wage slavery. The stance of GSEE last Wednesday is quite telling: GSEE cancelled the programmed strikers' demonstration, stopping short at the organization of a brief gathering in Syntagma Sq., making simultaneously sure that the people will be dispersed in a hurry from the Square, fearing that they might get infected by the virus of insurrection.
-To open up this space for the first time -as a continuation of the social opening created by the insurrection itself-, a space that has been built by our contributions, a space from which we were excluded. For all these years we trusted our fate on saviours of every kind, and we end up losing our dignity. As workers we have to start assuming our responsibilities, and to stop assigning our hopes to wise leaders or "able" representatives. We have to acquire a voice of our own, to meet up, to talk, to decide, and to act. Against the generalized attack we endure. The creation of collective "grassroot" resistances is the only way.
-To propagate the idea of self-organization and solidarity in working places, struggle committees and collective grassroot procedures, abolishing the bureaucrat trade unionists.
All these years we gulp the misery, the pandering, the violence in work. We became accustomed to counting the crippled and our dead - the so-called "labor accidents". We became accustomed to ingore the migrants -our class brothers- getting killed. We are tired living with the anxiety of securing a wage, revenue stamps, and a pension that now feels like a distant dream.
As we struggle not to abandon our life in the hands of the bosses and the trade union representatives, likewise we will not abandon no arrested insurgent in the hands of the state and the juridical mechanism.
IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THE DETAINED
NO CHARGE TO THE ARRESTED
SELF-ORGANIZATION OF THE WORKERS
GENERAL STRIKE
WORKERS' ASSEMBLY IN THE "LIBERATED" BUILDING OF GSEE
Wendesday, 17 December 2008, 18:00
General Assembly of Insurgent Workers
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
From ZMag - the BBC article it refers to can be read here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7782907.stm
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19975
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19975
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
From the GSEE take over
Maybe the most important move that has been done during the last days. GSEE has been actively trying to prevent the unions from strikes, in fear that this uprizing will also affect the workers. During the general strike last week, GSEE decided to do a separate demo rather than be together with all the rest on the big demo that day.
An Open Workers' Assembly has been organized for 18:00
TOMORROW BIG YOUTH, STUDENT AND WORKERS DEMONSTRATION STARTING FROM PROPYLAIA.
EVERYBODY ON THE STREETS
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
Activism on Parthenon
The first attack against the GSEE taken over building happened earlier. Around 60 workers members of DASKE (right wing workers union) and PASKE ("socialist" workers union) started verbally arguying with the comrade workers and demanded them to leave. People from the taken over ASOEE (university department) realised that and went to the GSEE building as well so the syndicalists and their friends had to leave... There was a lot of aggression and verbal arguments but no violence... up to now.
I am off to the workers assembly, I will keep you informed later of any news.
The first attack against the GSEE taken over building happened earlier. Around 60 workers members of DASKE (right wing workers union) and PASKE ("socialist" workers union) started verbally arguying with the comrade workers and demanded them to leave. People from the taken over ASOEE (university department) realised that and went to the GSEE building as well so the syndicalists and their friends had to leave... There was a lot of aggression and verbal arguments but no violence... up to now.
I am off to the workers assembly, I will keep you informed later of any news.
some different additions to this topic
This is a kind of a translation from GIORGOS VEIS' poem from
http://athinakisdimitris.wordpress.com/με-όπλο-του-στίχους/
GIORGOS VEIS
The day after
Because every second counts
we have to start writing now
even more poems
in order to clean the scene
from terror, threat and Death.
We have to exorcize the demons
that still hide in freedom
ready to bleed us dry
and because whoever gets lost today
inside himself
he'll be a forgotten memory and ashes tomorrow
Now we must learn what the enemy and injustice mean
because we can't understand reality
without understanding misery and despair
And because every second counts
We must already be present at imagination's school
so we can save again our dreams
and some info :
Tomorrow 18/12/08
-9.00 am sit-in (silent) in front of the Tomb of the unknown soldier
-11.00 am strike / assembly (couriers-delivery workers) Athens Museum
-11.00 am Demo (health workers from Athens & Pereus) in front of Ministry of health (17 Aristotelous str)
-12.00 All students/workers strike assembly and demo (Propylaia)
-12.00 From the general assemblies of the taken over unis -demo students / workers (Propylaia)
-12.00 schoolchildren/ students (Propylaia)
-12.00 Demo from the taken over Law uni (Propylaia)
17.00 pm Anti-racist demo from the Network for Political and Social Rights
There are more events, assemblies and demos all over Greek cities
Tomorrow the results of the ballistic test to be released to the magistrate
This is a kind of a translation from GIORGOS VEIS' poem from
http://athinakisdimitris.wordpress.com/με-όπλο-του-στίχους/
GIORGOS VEIS
The day after
Because every second counts
we have to start writing now
even more poems
in order to clean the scene
from terror, threat and Death.
We have to exorcize the demons
that still hide in freedom
ready to bleed us dry
and because whoever gets lost today
inside himself
he'll be a forgotten memory and ashes tomorrow
Now we must learn what the enemy and injustice mean
because we can't understand reality
without understanding misery and despair
And because every second counts
We must already be present at imagination's school
so we can save again our dreams
and some info :
Tomorrow 18/12/08
-9.00 am sit-in (silent) in front of the Tomb of the unknown soldier
-11.00 am strike / assembly (couriers-delivery workers) Athens Museum
-11.00 am Demo (health workers from Athens & Pereus) in front of Ministry of health (17 Aristotelous str)
-12.00 All students/workers strike assembly and demo (Propylaia)
-12.00 From the general assemblies of the taken over unis -demo students / workers (Propylaia)
-12.00 schoolchildren/ students (Propylaia)
-12.00 Demo from the taken over Law uni (Propylaia)
17.00 pm Anti-racist demo from the Network for Political and Social Rights
There are more events, assemblies and demos all over Greek cities
Tomorrow the results of the ballistic test to be released to the magistrate
Join with Hugo Blanco and sign the ecosocialist declaration!
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3183
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=3183
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
Some news updates from today...
You allready know about the GSEE take over so I will not repeat anything here.
This morning, in Euelpidon (the courts of Athens) young high school students were gathered in solidarity to some arrested school kids that were passing from the public attorney today. A group of these teenagers was attacked by the police with chemicals and stund grenades, although they were doing COMPLETELY nothing as a big number of eye witnesses - passing by public says. The people tried to stop the police but they started chasing the kids and made then run away to the streets around the area .... After the events in Chalandi a few days ago, when by miracle we did not have big injuries or even death of children, and after the brutal attack of the police against teenagers with their families at Echarxia, again today the police decides to attack even if they have not been provoced by anyone.. Police violence on the streets of Athens, and not only Athens, has increased a lot during the last days, they do not tolerate even peacefull demonstrations any more, as it happened when they attacked the COMPLETELY peacefull and silent sit down demonstration in Syntagma square a few days ago.
Demos were organized on various suburbs of Athens today. During the last days we see more demos on suburbs taking place rather than in the centre of Athens, in this way the local communities on those areas are also getting informed. In Byronas area, the demo was attacked by the police while it reached to the police department with the use of chemicals. Demonstrators who were on that demo also took over the Town Hall of Kesariani (a near by suburb). The take over lasted for a few hours and then a demo took place. An another demo in Byronas against police brutality is in progress right now as we speak, in a responce to the violent behaviour of the police to the previous one. A relatively big demo also took place at Chalandri, an another suburb of Athens, I there was also an attack against the police department there. The demonstrators firstly passed from the courts of Chalandri, throwing eggs against the building while various graffity were written. They then headed to the police department where eggs and paint was thrown against the police. There was a chain of normall police and at their back RIOT police existed. The demo continued and returned back to the spot, where eggs, paint and stones was thrown at the police again. The normal police left front there, leaving back the RIOT police (MAT), who started using chemicals and stund grenades against the demonstrators.
A photo from Kesariani : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kttNrkCNLWo/ST94TfZhICI/AAAAAAAABEE/l9oyoBoYG8M/s1600/kesariani+1.jpg
A police bus has been attacked again today by anarchists and was set on fire. http://www.zougla.gr/news/data/upimages/image.php?image=klouvamat76345624322.jpg&width=490
During the last few days, comrades are blocking the ticket checking machines in various tube stations in Athens, so the public does not need to buy a ticket (cannot validate - check it on the machine) and uses the tube for free. With this symbolic act, it is easier for the public also to access the demos, but it also gives a message about the economic problems that we all have.
In Thessaloniki, comrades got in big supermarkets, expropriated groceries and other food stuff and then gave them for free to people who were shopping in an open grocery market. This is an act that has taken place on a number of occassions and in Athens during the past.
http://www.zougla.gr/news/data/upimages/image.php?image=rompen8784378.jpg&width=490
A "Smash Your TV" action was called for today at Monastiraki area, in the centre of Athens about 16:00. A lot of people attended bringing together their own TV set, the TV sets were all collected sprayed with paint and then smashed. Various media journalists that were there and wanted to cover the event were not allowed to, as it was an anti-media action. A photo can be seen here
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metafiles/dsc00144.jpg
Riots took place in Patras, because of a speech and press conference of Mr Kougias (the cop lawyer) there. Kougias apart from being a lawyer is also active in football, and he bought the 50% of the shares of a Patras football club called "Panahaiki". A big number of anarchists broke one of the gates of the football pitch that the press conference was given, and tried to enter but RIOT police was also there in heavy numbers. A MASSIVE ammount of chemicals was sprayed against the gathered anarchists, road blocks were made, litter bins were put on fire and riots against the police started. The extensive use of chemicals by the police continued, they even threw "gass bombs" inside houses !!!
Panahaiki as a club was originally made by anarchists and because of this the colors of the team are still red and black. A lot of Patras anarchists are also Panahaiki fans, with their biggest club being the "Navajo" club.
In Chania, Crete, comrades took over a local TV channel and for some time broadcasted messages to the public of that area.
The status of "High Alert" at the army camps of all Greece STILL exists. No soldiers are allowed to leave the camps for no reason, the number of patrols and watches has increased. Even in watches that they are not normally given bullets they are now given, they are also given baggots to put on their guns while being on watch. Hundreds of soldiers from 42 camps of all over Greece, have officially stated to their superiors that they will DISOBEY if there is ever a command to get on the streets.
A first meeting at the free workers area (former GSEE building) took place today, a good number of workers appeared. There is a call for a general strike for tomorrow, there is an announcement to be issued shorty, I will post a translation here. The workers union of delivery workers (pizza, courier deliveries etc) have allready called for a strike for tomorrow since this morning in order to be able and attend tomorrow's demo. Mr Panagopoulos (GSEE president) this morning on the news said that the people that took over the building are definately not workers "because workers now should be working". This clearly shows what is the "job" of Mr Panagopoulos, to keep the workers at their work and nowhere else.
During the last days though, the workers apart from being at their work they are also on the streets. This is something that Mr Panagopoulos and anyone else cannot hide, even if he manages to hide the sun that gives light to our steps and anger at the streets of this city.
We are workers, we are unemployed (because we get fired when attending the GSEE strikes, while the ones that call them take promotions instead), we are part time workers, we are non secured workers legaly or not at "stage" programmes and subsidised programmes of employment. We are a part of this world and we are here. Who ever wants to understand will understand.
We are revolted workers. Period.
All our work hours have been won with blood, sweat, violence, broken waist, hands, knees, legs, heads.
All this world has been created by workers as us.
There WAS a big demo at the city centre tonight... With thousands of people, workers and students attending. It was the demo - walk on the streets - that KKE (the Greek Communist Party) had called with its front PAME (communist worker union). Obviously they did their demonstration tonight because they will not participate on tomorrow's big student and workers demonstration. I really dont know what happened on that one, although I can easilly guess, if Stella knows anything she can possibly inform us.
As Stella has allready posted a big demo is organized for tomorrow starting at Propylea.
You allready know about the GSEE take over so I will not repeat anything here.
This morning, in Euelpidon (the courts of Athens) young high school students were gathered in solidarity to some arrested school kids that were passing from the public attorney today. A group of these teenagers was attacked by the police with chemicals and stund grenades, although they were doing COMPLETELY nothing as a big number of eye witnesses - passing by public says. The people tried to stop the police but they started chasing the kids and made then run away to the streets around the area .... After the events in Chalandi a few days ago, when by miracle we did not have big injuries or even death of children, and after the brutal attack of the police against teenagers with their families at Echarxia, again today the police decides to attack even if they have not been provoced by anyone.. Police violence on the streets of Athens, and not only Athens, has increased a lot during the last days, they do not tolerate even peacefull demonstrations any more, as it happened when they attacked the COMPLETELY peacefull and silent sit down demonstration in Syntagma square a few days ago.
Demos were organized on various suburbs of Athens today. During the last days we see more demos on suburbs taking place rather than in the centre of Athens, in this way the local communities on those areas are also getting informed. In Byronas area, the demo was attacked by the police while it reached to the police department with the use of chemicals. Demonstrators who were on that demo also took over the Town Hall of Kesariani (a near by suburb). The take over lasted for a few hours and then a demo took place. An another demo in Byronas against police brutality is in progress right now as we speak, in a responce to the violent behaviour of the police to the previous one. A relatively big demo also took place at Chalandri, an another suburb of Athens, I there was also an attack against the police department there. The demonstrators firstly passed from the courts of Chalandri, throwing eggs against the building while various graffity were written. They then headed to the police department where eggs and paint was thrown against the police. There was a chain of normall police and at their back RIOT police existed. The demo continued and returned back to the spot, where eggs, paint and stones was thrown at the police again. The normal police left front there, leaving back the RIOT police (MAT), who started using chemicals and stund grenades against the demonstrators.
A photo from Kesariani : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kttNrkCNLWo/ST94TfZhICI/AAAAAAAABEE/l9oyoBoYG8M/s1600/kesariani+1.jpg
A police bus has been attacked again today by anarchists and was set on fire. http://www.zougla.gr/news/data/upimages/image.php?image=klouvamat76345624322.jpg&width=490
During the last few days, comrades are blocking the ticket checking machines in various tube stations in Athens, so the public does not need to buy a ticket (cannot validate - check it on the machine) and uses the tube for free. With this symbolic act, it is easier for the public also to access the demos, but it also gives a message about the economic problems that we all have.
In Thessaloniki, comrades got in big supermarkets, expropriated groceries and other food stuff and then gave them for free to people who were shopping in an open grocery market. This is an act that has taken place on a number of occassions and in Athens during the past.
http://www.zougla.gr/news/data/upimages/image.php?image=rompen8784378.jpg&width=490
A "Smash Your TV" action was called for today at Monastiraki area, in the centre of Athens about 16:00. A lot of people attended bringing together their own TV set, the TV sets were all collected sprayed with paint and then smashed. Various media journalists that were there and wanted to cover the event were not allowed to, as it was an anti-media action. A photo can be seen here
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metafiles/dsc00144.jpg
Riots took place in Patras, because of a speech and press conference of Mr Kougias (the cop lawyer) there. Kougias apart from being a lawyer is also active in football, and he bought the 50% of the shares of a Patras football club called "Panahaiki". A big number of anarchists broke one of the gates of the football pitch that the press conference was given, and tried to enter but RIOT police was also there in heavy numbers. A MASSIVE ammount of chemicals was sprayed against the gathered anarchists, road blocks were made, litter bins were put on fire and riots against the police started. The extensive use of chemicals by the police continued, they even threw "gass bombs" inside houses !!!
Panahaiki as a club was originally made by anarchists and because of this the colors of the team are still red and black. A lot of Patras anarchists are also Panahaiki fans, with their biggest club being the "Navajo" club.
In Chania, Crete, comrades took over a local TV channel and for some time broadcasted messages to the public of that area.
The status of "High Alert" at the army camps of all Greece STILL exists. No soldiers are allowed to leave the camps for no reason, the number of patrols and watches has increased. Even in watches that they are not normally given bullets they are now given, they are also given baggots to put on their guns while being on watch. Hundreds of soldiers from 42 camps of all over Greece, have officially stated to their superiors that they will DISOBEY if there is ever a command to get on the streets.
A first meeting at the free workers area (former GSEE building) took place today, a good number of workers appeared. There is a call for a general strike for tomorrow, there is an announcement to be issued shorty, I will post a translation here. The workers union of delivery workers (pizza, courier deliveries etc) have allready called for a strike for tomorrow since this morning in order to be able and attend tomorrow's demo. Mr Panagopoulos (GSEE president) this morning on the news said that the people that took over the building are definately not workers "because workers now should be working". This clearly shows what is the "job" of Mr Panagopoulos, to keep the workers at their work and nowhere else.
During the last days though, the workers apart from being at their work they are also on the streets. This is something that Mr Panagopoulos and anyone else cannot hide, even if he manages to hide the sun that gives light to our steps and anger at the streets of this city.
We are workers, we are unemployed (because we get fired when attending the GSEE strikes, while the ones that call them take promotions instead), we are part time workers, we are non secured workers legaly or not at "stage" programmes and subsidised programmes of employment. We are a part of this world and we are here. Who ever wants to understand will understand.
We are revolted workers. Period.
All our work hours have been won with blood, sweat, violence, broken waist, hands, knees, legs, heads.
All this world has been created by workers as us.
There WAS a big demo at the city centre tonight... With thousands of people, workers and students attending. It was the demo - walk on the streets - that KKE (the Greek Communist Party) had called with its front PAME (communist worker union). Obviously they did their demonstration tonight because they will not participate on tomorrow's big student and workers demonstration. I really dont know what happened on that one, although I can easilly guess, if Stella knows anything she can possibly inform us.
As Stella has allready posted a big demo is organized for tomorrow starting at Propylea.
Breathtaking. I really hope this kind of self-organisation spreads...
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
Its OK dont take what I said as an insult or anything, I thought you may had info from that demo even if you were not there
anyway
Kalinixta
Yep. poor kid was just walking down the road with no agenda at all.
The bastard pigs weren't pissed of with a week or more of little cunts tossing bricks and fire bombs at them.
Fascist pigs had no fucking excuse at all to arrest him.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
I quite agree dear fellow, the youth of today should learn to respect and obey the police no matter how many times the police violently attack them, with or without just cause, no matter that the police are above the law, or that this is a state of affairs that has gone on for years / decades.Yep. poor kid was just walking down the road with no agenda at all.
The bastard pigs weren't pissed of with a week or more of little cunts tossing bricks and fire bombs at them.
Fascist pigs had no fucking excuse at all to arrest him.
No the kids mustn't yell 'Enough' and take to the streets to demand the end of this brutality, they should stay indoor and watch tv like good little children, and they certainly shouldn't also dare to question the policies and corruption of those in charge... and if the police attack them and beat them like gangsters would, then the police shouldn't be treated like gangsters, and have their cars burned, and police stations attacked to prevent them from being able operate and attack more kids...
no, what they must do instead is write a sternly worded letter to their local corrupt politician, they're bound to sort it out if only someone would send them a letter.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
school kid injured by gunshot !!!
This happened yesterday at noon but it was only mentioned on the media today. We do not know the exact details yet, but as far as we know the incident happened at Peristeri (suburb of Athens) on one of the main streets of that area... A group of 8 school kids was gathered and discussing about their actions at school (their school is taken over for days now) and suddently 2 gunshots were heard from the opposite side of the street. The one bullet hit one kid on his wrist, he is now in hospital for a surgery. The injury is not big and the kid is not in danger.
We don't know exactly who shot at him, if he was a police man or not, we only know that he was not in uniform ... No report from the police has been issued yet, although the incident happened yesterday.
This happened yesterday at noon but it was only mentioned on the media today. We do not know the exact details yet, but as far as we know the incident happened at Peristeri (suburb of Athens) on one of the main streets of that area... A group of 8 school kids was gathered and discussing about their actions at school (their school is taken over for days now) and suddently 2 gunshots were heard from the opposite side of the street. The one bullet hit one kid on his wrist, he is now in hospital for a surgery. The injury is not big and the kid is not in danger.
We don't know exactly who shot at him, if he was a police man or not, we only know that he was not in uniform ... No report from the police has been issued yet, although the incident happened yesterday.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
I promised you yesterday to give you more details of the open meeting at the GSEE taken over building.
As I told you a lot of workers attended, the decision was for a general strike today and a meeting at 11:00 at the Museum in order to take part in today's demo. A lot of workers unions have accepted that decision, and they are either on 1 day strike for today or for a 3 hours one, in order their workers to be able to attend the demonstration.
A new General Assembly has been organized for today at 17:00
I am of for the Athens city centre for todays demo, I will be back online later today for updates.
NOTHING IS OVER YET, THIS IS ONLY THE BEGGINING.
As I told you a lot of workers attended, the decision was for a general strike today and a meeting at 11:00 at the Museum in order to take part in today's demo. A lot of workers unions have accepted that decision, and they are either on 1 day strike for today or for a 3 hours one, in order their workers to be able to attend the demonstration.
A new General Assembly has been organized for today at 17:00
I am of for the Athens city centre for todays demo, I will be back online later today for updates.
NOTHING IS OVER YET, THIS IS ONLY THE BEGGINING.
Random
Ethnic nalgocrat
The greek police are saying it was an airgun shot. Apparently the kid is the child of one of the leaders of the teachers federation btw!
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
Normally under a christmass tree you see a crib... with animals
Not under this one though .........
..... well on second thoughts the animals are still there
Hello from Athens, I am at the usual pc from my friend's house, in Echarxia. I had to leave at the end of the demo and did not go to the taken over Law Department, because I would have big breathing problems if I stayed on the street for any longer.
A big student and workers demo took place in the centre of Athens today starting from Propylaia. It started rather late, because of heavy rainfall, but the rain did not stop the people from comming. Difficult to estimate the number, I am sure more than 10000 of protestors flooded the centre of Athens, maybe even 15000 ... From the start up to the parliament nothing happened, but also there was not really police present... Apart their absence nothing was broken during that period.
At the parliament at Syntagma square there was an attack against the police. A couple of petrol bombs were thrown as well as paint, fruits and stones towards the police. A part of the demo reached toward the police line and attacked.... The police responce was with these new chemicals and stud grenades that were thrown inside the demo directly to the people. Some petrol bombs were also thrown and to the new christmass tree at Syntagma square (the previous one was burned during riots) but the police came to ... protect it and the fire was put off by the fire brigade.
The demo was "pushed" by the police back towards propylaia and from there towards the taken over building of the Law Department. At propylaia, stones were again thrown against the police who responded with chemicals and grenades again. One person was definately arrested there.... An ambulance also appeared, I think one demonstrator suffered from breathing problems... I fully understand him.
The demo stopped there, the most people left but a lot also entered the taken over Law Department of the University of Athens. About 300 people were outside the department and were fighting against the police for quite a while. The police nearly surrounded the Law Department, I think one more arrest was also made there.
Inside the Law Department a general assembly took place, and a decision was made that the comrades will go to Peristeri, at a demo that must have allready started there now, for the injured kid from a gunshot. I had a phone conversation with a comrade who was at the assembly just a minute ago, they are now on the street forming a block and are heading towards Peristeri.
You can see a video of what happened at Syntagma here : ... It is from the live cam of zougla.gr website.
Some photos also here : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=949951
In Peristeri, a demo has been announced after the incident with the injury of the school pupil yesterday. It is called by the school pupils but also one more demo has been called on the same time from KKE (Greek Communist Party). The father of the kid is a teacher and a member of the teachers federation, and a member of PAME, the workers union of KKE. The kid is also a communist, member of SASA.
About that incident a bit more info : First of all I should correct a couple of mistakes on my earlier post on that matter. Firstly the incident happened last night around 11 and not noon ... Also the school was not taken over up to that point, this is exactly what the 8 kids were discussing about. All of them were members of the 15 membered student assembly of that school.
It is now confirmed, even by the police, that it was a normal gun that fired and not an airgun. This was the result after the examination of the bullet, that was taken out of his hand after the surgery. It is a 38 gun that fired, so it could also be a police gun, as they have the same type. The bullet shell has not been found yet, so the gunman should be on a distance and not close, this also explains the fact that the injury of the kid was not big enough.
Because of the political backround of the kid and his parents, and the nature of the conversation that they were having, the most of the people are assuming that this was not some kind of an accident, but an actuall attack against the kid, an attempt to murder, but the murderer missed the target because he was not close enough... Of course nothing is certain yet, and an investigation from the police is taking place, after the recent events though not a lot of people trust the police so much ..... The fact that the police firstly said that it was an airgun, then a 22 mm gun and finally a 38 draws a lot of suspicions for an attempt to cover up the whole thing by them ...
There was tention again in Amalias str, a lot RIOT police was still there I dont know what is happening now, I think the situation must be more calm...
I will come back with more info, I think I will go down the road again.
Not under this one though .........
..... well on second thoughts the animals are still there
Hello from Athens, I am at the usual pc from my friend's house, in Echarxia. I had to leave at the end of the demo and did not go to the taken over Law Department, because I would have big breathing problems if I stayed on the street for any longer.
A big student and workers demo took place in the centre of Athens today starting from Propylaia. It started rather late, because of heavy rainfall, but the rain did not stop the people from comming. Difficult to estimate the number, I am sure more than 10000 of protestors flooded the centre of Athens, maybe even 15000 ... From the start up to the parliament nothing happened, but also there was not really police present... Apart their absence nothing was broken during that period.
At the parliament at Syntagma square there was an attack against the police. A couple of petrol bombs were thrown as well as paint, fruits and stones towards the police. A part of the demo reached toward the police line and attacked.... The police responce was with these new chemicals and stud grenades that were thrown inside the demo directly to the people. Some petrol bombs were also thrown and to the new christmass tree at Syntagma square (the previous one was burned during riots) but the police came to ... protect it and the fire was put off by the fire brigade.
The demo was "pushed" by the police back towards propylaia and from there towards the taken over building of the Law Department. At propylaia, stones were again thrown against the police who responded with chemicals and grenades again. One person was definately arrested there.... An ambulance also appeared, I think one demonstrator suffered from breathing problems... I fully understand him.
The demo stopped there, the most people left but a lot also entered the taken over Law Department of the University of Athens. About 300 people were outside the department and were fighting against the police for quite a while. The police nearly surrounded the Law Department, I think one more arrest was also made there.
Inside the Law Department a general assembly took place, and a decision was made that the comrades will go to Peristeri, at a demo that must have allready started there now, for the injured kid from a gunshot. I had a phone conversation with a comrade who was at the assembly just a minute ago, they are now on the street forming a block and are heading towards Peristeri.
You can see a video of what happened at Syntagma here : ... It is from the live cam of zougla.gr website.
Some photos also here : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=949951
In Peristeri, a demo has been announced after the incident with the injury of the school pupil yesterday. It is called by the school pupils but also one more demo has been called on the same time from KKE (Greek Communist Party). The father of the kid is a teacher and a member of the teachers federation, and a member of PAME, the workers union of KKE. The kid is also a communist, member of SASA.
About that incident a bit more info : First of all I should correct a couple of mistakes on my earlier post on that matter. Firstly the incident happened last night around 11 and not noon ... Also the school was not taken over up to that point, this is exactly what the 8 kids were discussing about. All of them were members of the 15 membered student assembly of that school.
It is now confirmed, even by the police, that it was a normal gun that fired and not an airgun. This was the result after the examination of the bullet, that was taken out of his hand after the surgery. It is a 38 gun that fired, so it could also be a police gun, as they have the same type. The bullet shell has not been found yet, so the gunman should be on a distance and not close, this also explains the fact that the injury of the kid was not big enough.
Because of the political backround of the kid and his parents, and the nature of the conversation that they were having, the most of the people are assuming that this was not some kind of an accident, but an actuall attack against the kid, an attempt to murder, but the murderer missed the target because he was not close enough... Of course nothing is certain yet, and an investigation from the police is taking place, after the recent events though not a lot of people trust the police so much ..... The fact that the police firstly said that it was an airgun, then a 22 mm gun and finally a 38 draws a lot of suspicions for an attempt to cover up the whole thing by them ...
There was tention again in Amalias str, a lot RIOT police was still there I dont know what is happening now, I think the situation must be more calm...
I will come back with more info, I think I will go down the road again.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
I dont like long copy pastes and it is too long to copy it here anyway so I give you this link from my blog
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=153105645&blogID=457297365
I have there a copy in english of the latest announcement of the occupied ASOEE
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=153105645&blogID=457297365
I have there a copy in english of the latest announcement of the occupied ASOEE
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