Johnny Canuck3
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Lock and Light has it: it's you who doesn't seem to get it.
Assange to face extradition
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Lock and Light has it: it's you who doesn't seem to get it.
Pickman's model
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And what a shit point it is
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No, YOU don't get it.
NO ONE has alleged there has been ANY military attempt to secure assange, not even thr looniest conspiraloon. What's your point again?
JimW
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A more important point is that the US didn't know where Bin Laden was either until shortly before the op, so not much of a comparison with Assange (leaving aside the various other ways it isn't comparable).
Johnny Canuck3
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The intention to get him was always there. The specific operation that got him, ie the one with the SEALS and helicopters - that operation, we heard about once it was done. When the US was planning the logistics, checking the intel pointing to him being in that compound, the operation remained a closely guarded secret.
That's the point: if the US is currently doing something to influence Sweden or the UK, or doing who knows what - if it currently has an Operation Grab Assange - the public at large will not be informed about it while it's being implemented. And if it involves any dirty dealing or whatever, we might never hear about it.
Johnny Canuck3
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Take another example: the nuclear scientist killed in Teheran. Blown up by a bomb.
Who did it?
We don't know. Somebody did it. But, the operation and its details haven't been made public by whomever is behind it. All we know is, the man is dead.
Sometimes, governments do things that way. They work below the surface, and then, all of a sudden, you hear the outcome, but not the workings of the plan.
I'm not suggesting that someone is going to blow Assange up with a bomb. But a govt might be working below the radar, to effect a different outcome.
Who did it?
We don't know. Somebody did it. But, the operation and its details haven't been made public by whomever is behind it. All we know is, the man is dead.
Sometimes, governments do things that way. They work below the surface, and then, all of a sudden, you hear the outcome, but not the workings of the plan.
I'm not suggesting that someone is going to blow Assange up with a bomb. But a govt might be working below the radar, to effect a different outcome.
Johnny Canuck3
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So, you did understand; were you just playing dumb before?
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but that has fuck all to do with what i asked you above - which is what similar attempts to secure assange to those made to get bin laden has the united states made - and i made explicit reference to tora bora. so it's been pretty clear that i meant MILITARY operations. plus, ever since about 12/09/2001 it's been well-known that the united states was out to get bin laden - they made no fucking secret of it. can you demonstrate some similar resolve on the part of the united states to get assange? things like offering a large reward, invading a country, bombing hitherto obscure mountain ranges - that sort of thing.
Does he need to play dumb?
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it's a shit point because it has NO RELATION to what i was talking about.
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how does this in any way add to the discussion?
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny Canuck3
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You seem to have missed the fact that it was Johnny who was talking.
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all this little shitstorm of posts has elicited is you cannot point to any similar means to those used against bin laden by the united states employed against assange which is what i asked you some time ago.
instead you've tried to divert the issue and are now happily trying to get into a stupid argument about shit points / points in general which evades the topick of discussion.
end of.
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how does this in any way add to the discussion?
This "little shitstorm of posts" is the result of your intervention, Picky. You are the one who has distracted from the discussion.
Johnny Canuck3
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I can truthfully say that if the US currrently has some sort of clandestine operation in the works in order to secure Assange, I have absolutely no knowledge of the plan or its details.
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how does this in any way add to the discussion?
Johnny Canuck3
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so no answer to my question from post 1208 thenI can truthfully say that if the US currrently has some sort of clandestine operation in the works in order to secure Assange, I have absolutely no knowledge of the plan or its details.
Johnny Canuck3
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I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to assist you through what you appear to regard as a logical minefield.
Johnny Canuck3
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That's where you fell into error. I wasn't restricting anything to just military operations. I gave an example of a clandestine operation that was military, but..............come on........... surely you didn't think I was suggesting that the US was going to try to take Assange out with a Predator drone?
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how is this 'helping [me] through a logical minefield'?
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how is this 'helping [me] through a logical minefield'?
Johnny Canuck3
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I don't believe anything can help you.
Johnny Canuck3
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That isn't. What that post above is, is me, with a machete, trying to hack through the jungle in order to get a little light into you, there.
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how is this adding anything to the discussion?
Johnny Canuck3
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This has stopped being a discussion and has turned into a pillowfight where the pillowcases are stuffed with strawberry frappe.
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