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Are You "Anyone But England"?

The39thStep said:
There might be some truth in that., howver there is a line or arguement behind it. The basic Trot line or at least the SWPs was football is popular because it is a distraction from the realities of capitalism, international football competition accentuates nationalism, after the revolution there wont be any competitive sport just individual leisure.
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Of course, I know the arguments but the "distraction from the realities of capitalism" is such a slippery slope. Where will it end? Organising Socialist Worker paper sales on a particular day in the year to ensure that rank and file SWP members can't be sat at home watching the Eurovision because of its underlying soft nationalism and appeal to base human enjoyment? Did the older one with the moustache from the Brotherhood of Man die for that?
 
Spymaster said:
Ah, ddraig , there you are!

Looking forward to Wednesday? We should watch the match together. Wanna come to London?
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It would be like Gary Neville watching Man City, muttering under his breath and making barbed comments through gritted teeth desperately praying that they make a mistake and slip up somewhere and then saying that although they deserved to win the other team just didnt turn up.
 
imposs1904 said:
Of course, I know the arguments but the "distraction from the realities of capitalism" is such a slippery slope. Where will it end? Organising Socialist Worker paper sales on a particular day in the year to ensure that rank and file SWP members can't be sat at home watching the Eurovision because of its underlying soft nationalism and appeal to base human enjoyment? Did the older one with the moustache from the Brotherhood of Man die for that?
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I got Sky on a trial once and after being berated about supporting Rupert Murdocks millions two weeks later the branch organiser asked if he could come round and watch some Rugby League game. Just to piss him off I went fly posting.
 
We have far exceeded expectations already, had a blast and got to the semi finals. Even if we go out on Wednesday its been fantastic.

The ABEs can't hurt us now...
 
I've spent the weekend with some Scots.

I wore an England Cricket tshirt for most of it.

It was fun.
 
krtek a houby said:
I have no problem with the slogan. However, it's making fun of people because they don't understand the language. Which isn't all that brilliant, imho.
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I don't know what they're singing (can someone translate?) but I can guess the gist of it and to be fair, they got exactly what they deserved. :D

At least check Google translate first :facepalm:
 
krtek a houby said:
I have no problem with the slogan. However, it's making fun of people because they don't understand the language. Which isn't all that brilliant, imho.
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What, like this...

cupid_stunt said:
I've just remembered something funny, when in Ireland I was interested in learning a little Gaelic, sadly none of the young people we mixed with were interested in it.

One night in a bar, I was pushing for someone to give me at least a Gaelic greeting to use, the fuckers gave me one - póg mo thóin - they said it was 'good evening'.

So, off I went to get the next round, and this stupid fucker started the order with the landlady with my new Gaelic greeting, which in translation is actually 'kiss my arse'. :facepalm: :D
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It was funny as fuck, TBH. :D
 
Spymaster said:
I don't know what they're singing (can someone translate?) but I can guess the gist of it and to be fair, they got exactly what they deserved. :D

At least check Google translate first :facepalm:
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They're singing tiocfaidh ar la, which means "our day will come", a phrase that still gets some hackles raised. Mary Lou was called out on it, not so long ago. It doesn't bother me, the slogan, as I've come to realise that I was wrong about many things regarding Irish republicanism.

Anyways! That's not the point I'm trying to make. Why did the lads deserve it? Because they were English supporters or what? Or were they causing hassle? I need more context, otherwise (to me) it just looks like it's making fun of someone who can't speak the language.
 
krtek a houby said:
They're singing tiocfaidh ar la, which means "our day will come", a phrase that still gets some hackles raised. Mary Lou was called out on it, not so long ago. It doesn't bother me, the slogan, as I've come to realise that I was wrong about many things regarding Irish republicanism.

Anyways! That's not the point I'm trying to make. Why did the lads deserve it? Because they were English supporters or what? Or were they causing hassle? I need more context, otherwise (to me) it just looks like it's making fun of someone who can't speak the language.
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No it wasn't that that was the joke.
It was the fact that anyone English would be singing what is viewed as an Irish republican slogan. And I've no doubt the lads were told what it meant afterwards and probably had a laugh along with the others in the pub.

But ..having said that.... "our day will come" fits well with the England bringing home the cup slogan too.
In fairness.
 
Frankly, the phrase "Tiocfaidh ar la" has been around a lot longer than republicanism.
It's the same as "our day will come"

And it fits a lot more than a narrow IRA aspiration.
 
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