Apparently, Feminism is dead!!!

[revol68]

oh and yeah men's clothes are boring compared to girls.

I often walk round topshop envious of the wonderful range of looks available to women. I swear if I was a girl I'd have run up about 20k in store card debt.

 

[William of Walworth]

I went out with an asian woman who was an ardent feminist. She made me think about my opinions and what I was saying more than any girl before or since and I still miss her for that. As a middle-class white man, I was frankly oblivious to the huge amount of prejudice that women like her experience daily. I paid lip-service to it of course, but she helped me *get* it. That said, I don't doubt that I can ever be anything but mostly oblivious to it even now, as a pure accident of birth. Feminism should be taught to guys in school imo, as I'm ashamed to admit that before I learned about it, my preconceptions of feminists were of the Valerie Solanas testicle-slasher sort, not of the intelligent, informed, not-going-to-take-shit-from-the-system sort. Blokes - go out with a feminist, you won't regret it.

Bolded bit : as fuck!

The above in general makes a lot of sense, and fits in with my experience too. I used to be scared of ouspoken feminists (back in the eighties there was sometimes good reason for that actually!) but things change over time and you learn!

(If that's any help to this thread at all )

 

[cesare]

oh and yeah men's clothes are boring compared to girls.

I often walk round topshop envious of the wonderful range of looks available to women. I swear if I was a girl I'd have run up about 20k in store card debt.

You're a man out of his time, revol. I can envisage you enjoying the attire of the Regency days.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

he's a wee fop

 

[cesare]

Bolded bit : as fuck!

The above in general makes a lot of sense, and fits in with my experience too. I used to be scared of ouspoken feminists (back in the eighties there was sometimes good reason for that actually!) but things change over time and you learn!

(If that's any help to this thread at all )

Were you as scared of outspoken feminists as you were of outspoken men?

 

[cesare]

he's a wee fop

Clothes used to be way better for men and women though, till the Victorians got their paws on fashion

 

[revol68]

You're a man out of his time, revol. I can envisage you enjoying the attire of the Regency days.

Except I'd have been a dirt poor Irish peasant living under an anglo ruling class.

[Identity Politics XP +4]

 

[cesare]

Except I'd have been a dirt poor Irish peasant living under an anglo ruling class.

[Identity Politics XP +4]

You might have been away with the Pilgrim Fathers to the land of the free

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

You might have been away with the Pilgrim Fathers to the land of the free

Not great clothes for the pilgrims though

 

[revol68]

it should say well rather than ell, was typing on a phone.

What's not to get?

 

[cesare]

Not great clothes for the pilgrims though

Didn't they have those broad brimmed hats, and cloaks?

 

[revol68]

Didn't they have those broad brimmed hats, and capes?

I don't want to dress like V or Chris Knight, thanks very much.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Were you as scared of outspoken feminists as you were of outspoken men?

Exactly what a strange thing to say, how many men were denied jobs, or physically or sexually assulted by outspoken feminists?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Didn't they have those broad brimmed hats, and cloaks?

A fair point, Ichabod Crane was pretty dapper

 

[cesare]

I don't want to dress like V or Chris Knight, thanks very much.

They've expropriated hats and cloaks

 

[revol68]

Exactly what a strange thing to say, how many men were denied jobs, or physically or sexually assulted by outspoken feminists?

I know of one lad who did have to sit outside on the stairs whilst an all feminist female collective decided whether he was worthy of volunteering in their bookshop, they eventually accepted him in as some sort of neutered eunuch. I don't care how much it might of impressed lefty girls at parties, I'd have told them to go fuck themselves when they told me to sit outside whilst they overcome their reactionary essentialism.

 

[cesare]

A fair point, Ichabod Crane was pretty dapper

Full length cloaks are pretty cool too. Like the one worn by the woman in the Scottish Widows ad.

 

[cesare]

I know of one lad who did have to sit outside on the stairs whilst an all feminist female collective decided whether he was worthy of volunteering in their bookshop, they eventually accepted him in as some sort of neutered eunuch. I don't care how much it might of impressed lefty girls at parties, I'd have told them to go fuck themselves when they told me to sit outside whilst they overcome their reactionary essentialism.

But would you have been scared of them?

 

[revol68]

Full length cloaks are pretty cool too. Like the one worn by the woman in the Scottish Widows ad.

Love a girl in a cape!

 

[revol68]

But would you have been scared of them?

No, I'm only scared of girls I fancy, then I turn into a total drippy mute.

 

[cesare]

Love a girl in a cape!

Capes are good on men too!

 

[cesare]

No, I'm only scared of girls I fancy, then I turn into a total drippy mute.

Maybe that's what William meant. Outspoken feminists being so fanciable that they made him nervous.

 

[revol68]

Capes are good on men too!

You say that, but in reality it makes you them look like a total mental.

 

[cesare]

You say that, but in reality it makes you them look like a total mental.

Noooo! The highwayman look!

 

[Greebo]

They've expropriated hats and cloaks

In terms of practicality, cloaks are overrated; try running for the bus or tube in one. Actually don't, the drag factor is huge. Lovely as blankets on late night trains though.

 

[revol68]

Maybe that's what William meant. Outspoken feminists being so fanciable that they made him nervous.

As much as I'd like to gain some right on PC points, I simply can't bring myself to agree that outspoken feminists are really fanciable, in general I find them as attractive as outspoken anarchist/lefties, ie not at all, seeing as most of them are posturing idiots with no depth to their sloganeering shite.

 

[cesare]

As much as I'd like to gain some right on PC points, I simply can't bring myself to agree that outspoken feminists are really fanciable, in general I find them as attractive as outspoken anarchist/lefties, ie not at all, seeing as most of them are posturing idiots with no depth to their sloganeering shite.

I'm trying to visualise what you would consider outspoken, here . . .

 

[Vintage Paw]

Aren't you an outspoken leftie, revol? Of a particular kind, of course.

 

[Greebo]

Full length cloaks are pretty cool too. Like the one worn by the woman in the Scottish Widows ad.

Got one like that, except that it's a bit motheaten. And it doesn't quite sweep the ground. I've seen the state of cloaks worn outdoors where they swept the grass. It's a good look, as long as you ignore the things often found in the grass of public spaces.

 

[revol68]

I'm trying to visualise what you would consider outspoken, here . . .

The sort who use lefty politics as an identity, you know the posturing muppets who join the SWP in uni.