Anti UKIP protest 'Tell Farage to Fek off' - April 23rd Gateshead

[The Black Hand]

 

[butchersapron]

Who's banned smoking?

 

[D'wards]

I don't think they want to end the NHS, but privatise aspects I think. I'm a bit dubious if people start exagerating this stuff cos of their own political opposition, they are getting into Daily Mail tactics surely.

I am anti UKIP but prefer to make up my mind based on the facts rather than hyperbole

 

[D'wards]

Although i do think people who vote for UKIP on immigration matters don't really care about other aspects, like the economy for example. Which is probably the most important aspect of government, and these nobs will only ruin it even more

 

[J Ed]

Who's banned smoking?

Or grammar schools for that matter. Almost all schools in Lincolnshire are still grammar schools.

Also Farage has said he won't repeal equal marriage.

 

[The39thStep]

Its like Germany in the 1930s in slow motion

 

[DotCommunist]

Its like Germany in the 1930s in slow motion

so we can look forward to the month of the long knives where Moncton and his ilk are killed by farange and his party loyalists

 

[The39thStep]

so we can look forward to the month of the long knives where Moncton and his ilk are killed by farange and his party loyalists

Definitely could be a purge on the entryist ex Marxists for Griffin faction

 

[Casually Red]

can someone please explain to me the supposed leftist opposition to smokers which is very prominently highlighted in this campaign ,that Ive little doubt cameron clegg and miliband wil be more than happy with. Hitler would like that bit too.

 

[butchersapron]

We don'y know this is organised by leftists - it doesn't give any clues as to who is calling it.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Yeah smoking never went away. I'm smoking right now in fact!

 

[D'wards]

Also, if there's one thing that the prison service needs its extra funding. My work means I have a lot of contact with the HMPs, and they have been running dangerously close to capacity for many years now.
Cramped conditions make it (more) miserable for the inmates and leads to more instances of trouble and unrest.
Dunno why anyone would oppose this in principle, although it could be argued that its because UKIP will be locking a lot more people up for a lot longer i suppose.

 

[Casually Red]

not for smoking in the pub though

 

[cantsin]

can someone please explain to me the supposed leftist opposition to smokers which is very prominently highlighted in this campaign ,that Ive little doubt cameron clegg and miliband wil be more than happy with. Hitler would like that bit too.

as a long suffering weekend / "social" / etc smoker, deffo not against "smokers, and not actually convinced by this anti UKIP demo generally, but I think highlighting the longstanding collusion between the Tory Right/UKIP/Libertarian Right etc and the filthy Tobacco Multinationals is always fair game . Its a shitty drug pumped full of extra cancerous, profit producing crap by a particularly murderous sector of Big Biz, and feckwit Farage's pro-smoking grandstanding is embarassing/needs calling out.

 

[butchersapron]

Not a vote changer yay or nay though

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

We don'y know this is organised by leftists - it doesn't give any clues as to who is calling it.

Some sort of slavic nationalists going by the username?

 

[classicdish]

We don'y know this is organised by leftists - it doesn't give any clues as to who is calling it.

Is it North East Anti Fascists maybe? https://www.facebook.com/NorthEast.AntiFascists

 

[muscovyduck]

So the problem with this is that they've turned every argument against UKIP into an oversimplified slogan.

 

[krink]

it's a left/labour thing as far as i can tell from the event page on faceache.

 

[Gerry1time]

UKIP will be locking a lot more people up for a lot longer i suppose.

Despite them standing for drug legalisation. One of the reasons UKIP are doing well is that it's really hard to pigeonhole them using the categories the mainstream parties have settled on over the last few decades. They'd be a car crash if elected of course, but they raise interesting questions about the way we've all come to think of the political divides in this country.

 

[Casually Red]

as a long suffering weekend / "social" / etc smoker, deffo not against "smokers, and not actually convinced by this anti UKIP demo generally, but I think highlighting the longstanding collusion between the Tory Right/UKIP/Libertarian Right etc and the filthy Tobacco Multinationals is always fair game . Its a shitty drug pumped full of extra cancerous, profit producing crap by a particularly murderous sector of Big Biz, and feckwit Farage's pro-smoking grandstanding is embarassing/needs calling out.

im opposed to the anti smoking laws. I think a grown adult should have a choice when they go into a pub whether they smoke or not, or whether they go in or not. And pubs shpuld be able to choose whether they permit or not. Like they have done since pubs were first invented.
They arent health spas, they arent gyms. Theyre pubs. There is fuck all in there thats good for you. And adults should simply have a choice. Its a ridiculous law, its like your mum or your schoolteacher following you into the pub . I wholeheartedly agree with farages opposition to it, not just as a smoker but as a grown adult . And if we are going to be consistently left wing then Smirnoff Diageo and wetherspoons need banned too then. Because thats bad for you .

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

it's a left/labour thing as far as i can tell from the event page on faceache.

Yep looks like it Alliance for Workers Liberty/Labour Left types...

 

[emanymton]

im opposed to the anti smoking laws. I think a grown adult should have a choice when they go into a pub whether they smoke or not, or whether they go in or not. And pubs shpuld be able to choose whether they permit or not. Like they have done since pubs were first invented.
They arent health spas, they arent gyms. Theyre pubs. There is fuck all in there thats good for you. And adults should simply have a choice. Its a ridiculous law, its like your mum or your schoolteacher following you into the pub . I wholeheartedly agree with farages opposition to it, not just as a smoker but as a grown adult . And if we are going to be consistently left wing then Smirnoff Diageo and wetherspoons need banned too then. Because thats bad for you .

Side issue, but the main problem I have with all that is it ignores the staff who have to work in those conditions. It is essentially a workplace health and safety issue as far as I'm concerned.

 

[The39thStep]

I can understand why this Serbian group are anti UKIP but in my experience there are a lot of pro smoking Serbs

 

[Casually Red]

Side issue, but the main problem I have with all that is it ignores the staff who have to work in those conditions. It is essentially a workplace health and safety issue as far as I'm concerned.

fine, so before you work there the publican has to tell you whether or not its a smoking or non smoking pub. And if its a health and safety issue then concerned staff can even be issued with full face 3M masks like I have to wear at work for health and safety issues.

 

[cantsin]

im opposed to the anti smoking laws. I think a grown adult should have a choice when they go into a pub whether they smoke or not, or whether they go in or not. And pubs shpuld be able to choose whether they permit or not. Like they have done since pubs were first invented.
They arent health spas, they arent gyms. Theyre pubs. There is fuck all in there thats good for you. And adults should simply have a choice. Its a ridiculous law, its like your mum or your schoolteacher following you into the pub . I wholeheartedly agree with farages opposition to it, not just as a smoker but as a grown adult . And if we are going to be consistently left wing then Smirnoff Diageo and wetherspoons need banned too then. Because thats bad for you .

as a smoker, the pub ban helped me wean off auto-drink/smoke axis massively, am sure its the same for many other smokers, and even more non smokers...no going back for youse/Nige/Forest/IEA on this one, adults or not.

As for being "consistently left wing" ....am deffo up for banning W Spoons, Smirmff not so much...we could draw up a list

 

[tony.c]

im opposed to the anti smoking laws. I think a grown adult should have a choice when they go into a pub whether they smoke or not, or whether they go in or not. And pubs shpuld be able to choose whether they permit or not. Like they have done since pubs were first invented.
They arent health spas, they arent gyms. Theyre pubs. There is fuck all in there thats good for you. And adults should simply have a choice. Its a ridiculous law, its like your mum or your schoolteacher following you into the pub . I wholeheartedly agree with farages opposition to it, not just as a smoker but as a grown adult . And if we are going to be consistently left wing then Smirnoff Diageo and wetherspoons need banned too then. Because thats bad for you .

You have a choice whether you drink alcohol or not. You don't get secondary liver damage because of other people drinking. That's the difference.
And you don't come out of a pub smelling of someone else's booze. Unless they've spilled it on you, or thrown it over you.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

im opposed to the anti smoking laws. I think a grown adult should have a choice when they go into a pub whether they smoke or not, or whether they go in or not. And pubs shpuld be able to choose whether they permit or not. Like they have done since pubs were first invented.
They arent health spas, they arent gyms. Theyre pubs. There is fuck all in there thats good for you. And adults should simply have a choice. Its a ridiculous law, its like your mum or your schoolteacher following you into the pub . I wholeheartedly agree with farages opposition to it, not just as a smoker but as a grown adult . And if we are going to be consistently left wing then Smirnoff Diageo and wetherspoons need banned too then. Because thats bad for you .

Wow...where to start.

1. opposition to anti-smoking laws...really?...including thsoe relating to age limits and advertising?

2. grown adults should simply have a choice...would that be a free choice or one constrained by circumstances beyond their control?

3. like they have done since pubs were first invented...and of course there have been no significant social, economic or cultural changes since the invention of the pub...lets just carry on as we always have because that has worked out so well.

4. it's like your mum or your school teacher...not really...it's more like your social conscience/recognition for responsibility to more that your own self interest following you into the pub...taking care of other people who want to use the pub, work in in the pub maybe take their kids there.

Not so much casually red as thoughtlessly selfish.

Louis MacNeice

 

[Casually Red]

You have a choice whether you drink alcohol or not. You don't get secondary liver damage because of other people drinking. That's the difference.
And you don't come out of a pub smelling of someone else's booze. Unless they've spilled it on you, or thrown it over you.

if people are smoking in it and you dont like it then dont go into it, its pretty simple. And how it works in most of the world.

 

[Casually Red]

Wow...where to start.

1. opposition to anti-smoking laws...really?...including thsoe relating to age limits and advertising?

2. grown adults should simply have a choice...would that be a free choice or one constrained by circumstances beyond their control?

3. like they have done since pubs were first invented...and of course there have been no significant social, economic or cultural changes since the invention of the pub...lets just carry on as we always have because that has worked out so well.

4. it's like your mum or your school teacher...not really...it's more like your social conscience/recognition for responsibility to more that your own self interest following you into the pub...taking care of other people who want to use the pub, work in in the pub maybe take their kids there.

Not so much casually red as thoughtlessly selfish.

Louis MacNeice

a pubs no place for kids. If you want some socially la dee deh healthfood creche of a pub then go to one. People who want something different should have that choice too .