Another spoiled little man goes a US gun rampage (six people murdered in Santa Barbara)

[8ball]

riding the tiger . thread

I don't think I'd be allowed for animal cruelty reasons unless it was a chariot towed by maybe a dozen.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Really? I used to shoot a recurve, which was basically just a bow. No idea what they're up to these days, though. I've played Crysis 3 but I took the mechanics of the bow with something of a pinch of salt.

I was actually referring to compounds. However, I used to shoot a 55 lb recurve and managed to twang my left tit. It bled and was bad enough to require medical care. The bruise was something to behold.

Where I live the limit for hunting deer is a lower-limit of 45 lbs. It's a pretty common poundage in competition.

 

[8ball]

I was actually referring to compounds. However, I used to shoot a 55 lb recurve and managed to twang my left tit. It was bad enough to require medical care. The bruise was something to behold.

Yeowch!!! I twatted the inside of my am with a 34 pounder and when I'd just started and I thought that was bad!

 

[Baboonking]

One of the more thoughtful pieces on the tragedy I've read

http://www.alternet.org/culture/8-t...ling-spree?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

Media Speculation About Possible Aspergers Is Irresponsible.

Following the Sandy Hook grade school shooting in 2012 and Isla Vista shootings, it was reported—but not confirmed—that these shooters had Asperger’s syndrome, implying this condition might be a contributing factor in the tragedies.

This line of speculation is wrong on many fronts. It is inaccurate to blur personality disorders that turn people into killers with neural development disorders such as Aspergers, which is characterized only by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication difficulties, and restricted and repetitive behavior. Such inferences scapegoat and stigmatize a large number of children, teenagers, and adults (mostly boys and young men) who are, as a group, gentle and even overly sensitive individuals. Simply put, there is no component of this syndrome that can turn someone into a mass killer.

 

[spanglechick]

One of the more thoughtful pieces on the tragedy I've read

http://www.alternet.org/culture/8-t...ling-spree?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

Media Speculation About Possible Aspergers Is Irresponsible.

Following the Sandy Hook grade school shooting in 2012 and Isla Vista shootings, it was reported—but not confirmed—that these shooters had Asperger’s syndrome, implying this condition might be a contributing factor in the tragedies.

This line of speculation is wrong on many fronts. It is inaccurate to blur personality disorders that turn people into killers with neural development disorders such as Aspergers, which is characterized only by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication difficulties, and restricted and repetitive behavior. Such inferences scapegoat and stigmatize a large number of children, teenagers, and adults (mostly boys and young men) who are, as a group, gentle and even overly sensitive individuals. Simply put, there is no component of this syndrome that can turn someone into a mass killer.

incredibly relevant given discussions on the maxine carr thread today.

 

[weltweit]

One of the more thoughtful pieces on the tragedy I've read

http://www.alternet.org/culture/8-t...ling-spree?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

Media Speculation About Possible Aspergers Is Irresponsible.

Following the Sandy Hook grade school shooting in 2012 and Isla Vista shootings, it was reported—but not confirmed—that these shooters had Asperger’s syndrome, implying this condition might be a contributing factor in the tragedies.

This line of speculation is wrong on many fronts. It is inaccurate to blur personality disorders that turn people into killers with neural development disorders such as Aspergers, which is characterized only by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication difficulties, and restricted and repetitive behavior. Such inferences scapegoat and stigmatize a large number of children, teenagers, and adults (mostly boys and young men) who are, as a group, gentle and even overly sensitive individuals. Simply put, there is no component of this syndrome that can turn someone into a mass killer.

These shooters? If they can't get that bit right I don't hold much hope for the rest of it.

 

[spanglechick]

These shooters? If they can't get that bit right I don't hold much hope for the rest of it.

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it's talking about the shooters in two different cases.

 

[weltweit]

?
it's talking about the shooters in two different cases.

Oh, ok I see that now (now that I followed the link )

 

[spanglechick]

Oh, ok I see that now (now that I followed the link )

no need to follow the link, it was the first part of the sentence you underlined.

 

[equationgirl]

No, but they did understand the need to hunt for food. I think some the hunting ethic is embedded in the Constitution as well. In the old country hunting was something only certain classes could do. You'd be in deep shit if you hunted a deer on the Lord's land.

This is true. People were transported to the colonies for poaching on the wrong property, and for less than poaching sometimes.

 

[weltweit]

no need to follow the link, it was the first part of the sentence you underlined.

So it was .. my mistake

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

According to psychologists, it was about more than the absence of a relationship/sex...

Elliot Rodger killed six innocent people in California blaming his rage on a non-existent sex life and not having a girlfriend in videos he posted on YouTube before the murders. But if Rodger did have relationships and sex with women, some psychologists suggest that he still would have gone on his rampage because his problems run deeper than just claiming to be a virgin.
“If Rodger had the capacity to be in a real, loving relationship I would imagine that he would have been much less capable of such callous behavior towards others,” clinical social worker and psychotherapist Laura Miller told CBS Hartford. “His disconnect from the humanity of others and their inherent worth would likely preclude any such relationship from occurring, however. So I don’t think having a girlfriend or sex is the issue here, but rather a direct result of his lack of self-awareness and lack of empathy towards those around him.”

http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/201...-killing-spree-even-if-he-had-sex-with-women/

 

[likesfish]

We had an officer who aquired a desert eagle because his browning wasnt cool enough
CO punished him by making him carry the ridicolus weapon for 6 weeks
The problem isnt the type of firearm somebody owns its the type of person who gets to own firearms.
although that said if your limited to target pistols and hunting/target weapons it does discourage a certain type of person.

 

[ViolentPanda]

cool - so, you can do archery, handguns get banned and we'll see if any fucked-up twat tries to carry out a massacre with a longbow, shall we? i bet the number of kids accidentally getting shot goes down, too - cos it's a damn sight harder to fire a longbow with enough force to penetrate anything.

<pedant>
You shoot a bow or a crossbow, you don't "fire" it. Only firearms"fire"!
</pedant>

 

[ViolentPanda]

If that was the case, why use anything more than a peashooter?
Why do people need a Desert Eagle for target practice?

In case a desert lion attacks them?

 

[likesfish]

The army brought a few for research purposes some officer wanted to take one to kenya for defence against wild animals after less than half an hour on the range took a pump action shotgun much more sensible weapon.

 

[discokermit]

<pedant>
You shoot a bow or a crossbow, you don't "fire" it. Only firearms"fire"!
</pedant>

and combustion engines.

 

[8ball]

and Alan Sugar

 

[FridgeMagnet]

And bricks.

Wait. No. Bricks _are_ fired. Okay, kilns.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

<pedant>
You shoot a bow or a crossbow, you don't "fire" it. Only firearms"fire"!
</pedant>

In English. The French would say 'tirez!'

 

[MAD-T-REX]

This video was posted on another forum I visit. It's from a few days before the shooting spree and features a PUA 'master' criticising almost everything about Rogers' personality and appearance after he asked for feedback. I doubt Rogers' took it to heart given how sure he was of himself in his manifesto, but it shows this subculture is as brutal as it is twisted. Anyone who doesn't fit into a stereotypical gender role is pathetic, a bitch, etc.



(From about seven minutes)

 

[weltweit]

This video was posted on another forum I visit. It's from a few days before the shooting spree and features a PUA 'master' criticising almost everything about Rogers' personality and appearance after he asked for feedback. I doubt Rogers' took it to heart given how sure he was of himself in his manifesto, but it shows this subculture is as brutal as it is twisted. Anyone who doesn't fit into a stereotypical gender role is pathetic, a bitch, etc.



(From about seven minutes)

Wonder if mr "so good with women" will give an update after the recent events.

 

[Bakunin]

After all, I think a decent case could be made for those Grant Shapps websites having contributed to his clearly unhealthy state of mind.

Speaking of Grant Shapps, why has he just started following me on Twitter?

 

[Favelado]

<pedant>
You shoot a bow or a crossbow, you don't "fire" it. Only firearms"fire"!
</pedant>

Lasers.

 

[cesare]

Lasers.

And tasers

 

[Doctor Carrot]

This video was posted on another forum I visit. It's from a few days before the shooting spree and features a PUA 'master' criticising almost everything about Rogers' personality and appearance after he asked for feedback. I doubt Rogers' took it to heart given how sure he was of himself in his manifesto, but it shows this subculture is as brutal as it is twisted. Anyone who doesn't fit into a stereotypical gender role is pathetic, a bitch, etc.



(From about seven minutes)

What an ugly video. I truly detest the whole 'manosphere' bollocks.

 

[weltweit]

The term PUA was obviously so memorable I have already forgotten what it means!

 

[Dr_Herbz]

The term PUA was obviously so memorable I have already forgotten what it means!

Pathetic Uncivilised Arseholes

 

[likesfish]

Pick up artists ,alpha males who can sleep with any woman because they have mastered jedi mind tricks,
But only ever sleep with tens. unlike you pathetic pussy whipped betas who dont have game because they havn't spent $$$$ on our courses on how to be an Alpha male

I have no idea how an outlook like that could possibly push an unstable person over the edge

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It's a straw man. PUAs. Losers who join a pick up girls site, and then get blamed for all of the world's ills.