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And next, Syria?

There are already Russian troops embedded with the Syrians in an advisory role . Same too for the Iranians . Then there are a number of non state actors also in the field , such as HZB and Palestinians . If Britain sets about killing those forces I'd imagine there'd be some pretty miffed people in various quarters . Madness, in a word .
Personally I hope the Russians do make a serious intervention here , hopefully with air power .

I'm also sort of amused at the arrogance of the western reaction to Russian involvement . Any assistance they provide is at the request of and in cooperation with the Syrian government . They don't have to seek anyone else's permission . These bloody people...
 
J Ed said:
There has been a big increase in Russian military aid, and military advisers and special forces, in the past few months. It seems entirely possible to me that this might be in response to their concern that NATO might be about to intervene against both the regime and ISIS. Even if they were right and they were totally able to eliminate ISIS and the Assad regime, they would be giving the country to an opposition dominated by Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda-like groups.
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Who would then inevitably descend on Lebanon and destroy there too . Which, if your goal is to prevent Iran projecting its strategic reach against the zionists, makes perfect murderous sense .
 
Casually Red said:
There are already Russian troops embedded with the Syrians in an advisory role . Same too for the Iranians . Then there are a number of non state actors also in the field , such as HZB and Palestinians . If Britain sets about killing those forces I'd imagine there'd be some pretty miffed people in various quarters . Madness, in a word .
Personally I hope the Russians do make a serious intervention here , hopefully with air power .

I'm also sort of amused at the arrogance of the western reaction to Russian involvement . Any assistance they provide is at the request of and in cooperation with the Syrian government . They don't have to seek anyone else's permission . These bloody people...
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Intervention on the side of whom?

And don't you always assume that Russian intervention is a magic bullet?

A sort of reverse Wolfowitz?
 
Anyone else here been to Damascus or Homs or Hama or Krak de Chevalier or Palmyra or Aleppo or anywhere in Syria or Lebanon?
 
Anyone else been inside the Assad dictatorship - seen how every single taxi had to have a portrait photo, often two, hung in the cab?
 
Diamond said:
Anyone else here been to Damascus or Homs or Hama or Krak de Chevalier or Palmyra or Aleppo or anywhere in Syria or Lebanon?
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Fuchs66

he's been working in Syria for the UN - chemical weapons specialist. not seem him about for a bit, so i'm assuming he's somewhere not on Thomas Cooks most visited list....
 
J Ed said:
Osborne mentioned bombing both ISIS and Assad yesterday, Fox (given his past how is anyone taking him seriously again? Do they think that we are goldfish?) seems to be arguing only for bombing ISIS but there is more than a bit of an allusion in what he says to leaving the door open to bombing Assad as well.
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We've seen how these " open doors " work in Libya, with disastrous consequences we are still witnessing for Syrians and Libyans alike . There's absolutely no chance of the UNSC passing any such motion that could even possibly permit such actions . So what these arseholes are openly touting is a nakedly criminal action .

Hopefully the involvement of Russian pilots will put an end to any of this " no fly zone " nonsense as well .
 
Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria

Institute for the study of war have a new report about jabhat al nusra

The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) is not the only Salafi-Jihadist threat emanating from Syria. Its prominence in U.S. policy has overshadowed a threat of similar magnitude from Jabhat al-Nusra (JN), the official al-Qaeda (AQ) affiliate in Syria. JN rivals ISIS as a sophisticated, intelligent, strategic actor in the region and continues to enjoy a dangerous freedom to operate in Syria. The two groups share common goals, including a revived Islamic Caliphate. JN, however, is pursuing its aims through a distinct, more patient methodology that is highly threatening despite its low signature. Whereas ISIS has announced its state and tried to legitimize it by conquest, JN is following AQ leader Ayman al-Zawahiri’s method of fomenting a religious and social revolution by embedding itself within an indigenous insurgency. The Syrian war has provided JN a nearly ideal environment within which to implement this strategy on behalf of al-Qaeda, and JN has enjoyed worrying success to date. - See more at: Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria
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Oh, the link at the end leads to a 404 page. Never mind :confused:
 
Casually Red said:
Oh right...Britain has already started bombing Syria some weeks back.

Two Britons killed in RAF Syria strike, PM tells MPs - BBC News

And Cameron says he'll not even bother with a fucking vote this time either, if he fancies it . Hell just send in the bombers and chat about it later .
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i realise you're a deranged loon with minimal grip on events or reality - but parliamentary authority (not that he requires it), for exactly this type of operation was granted when parliament voted for strikes on IS, as Cameron said during the debate that he would carry out such actions if the circumstances warranted. the motion pased, so....
 
kebabking said:
Fuchs66

he's been working in Syria for the UN - chemical weapons specialist. not seem him about for a bit, so i'm assuming he's somewhere not on Thomas Cooks most visited list....
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I'm still in Damascus, head back home at the end of the week for a break and then I'll be coming back here ;)

E2A was in Latakia and Homs mainly for most of last year but for the last 13 months mainly Damascus.
 
Is Russia coming to Syria's rescue? | The Japan Times

One month ago they captured the mostly Christian town of al-Qaratayn, north-east of Damascus. (The inhabitants fled, of course). And now Islamic State forces are within 30 km of the M5, the key highway that links Damascus with the other parts of Syria that remain under government control.

The jihadis captured Palmyra, by the way, because the “anti-Isil coalition” — the U.S. Air Force, in practice — did not drop a single bomb in its defense. It made at least a thousand air strikes to save Kobani, the Kurdish city on the border with Turkey that was besieged by Islamic State fighters, because the Kurds were U.S. allies. Whereas Palmyra was defended by Assad’s soldiers, so the U.S. let Islamic State have it.

One can imagine Kerry’s (and Obama’s) horror at the idea that by defending Palmyra they would be seen as protecting Assad’s brutal regime, but if Islamic State troops manage to cut the M5 it will be seen as a sign of the regime’s impending defeat. At that point, up to half the people who still live in government-controlled areas — around 17 million — may panic and start trying to get out of Syria.
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Fuchs66 said:
I'm still in Damascus, head back home at the end of the week for a break and then I'll be coming back here ;)
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How do you get there - i thought travelling there was banned:eek: ? I thought the british embassy was closed - would anyone be able to offer assistance if something really bad went on?

Whats it looking like over there?
 
frogwoman said:
How do you get there - i thought travelling there was banned:eek: ? I thought the british embassy was closed - would anyone be able to offer assistance if something really bad went on?

Whats it looking like over there?
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Without going into too much detail we're basically looking after ourselves more or less.

E2A at the moment it's looking dusty outside :D it's up and down all the time somedays quiet others total chaos
 
Fuchs66 said:
Survived nearly 2 years on and off here, we're careful ;)
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stay careful - and cheers for helping me cross another potential career off my list! be lucky bruv, or whatever the young people say... :thumbs:

how much internet porn do you get through?
 
kebabking said:
stay careful - and cheers for helping me cross another potential career off my list! be lucky bruv, or whatever the young people say... :thumbs:

how much internet porn do you get through?
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I wouldn't know what the young 'uns say; oh hang on yes I would my girlfriend tells me ;). It's a great job out here I much prefer being here to Russia :)

Unfortunately the UN system we have here blocks anything of interest (damn those humanitarians)! :D

E2A the naked thread here is all that keeps me sane :D
 
Fuchs66 said:
...It's a great job out here I much prefer being here to Russia :)...
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there's well spent Roubles by the Russian Tourist Board: 'Russia: i prefered Syria myself...

interesting work - and i bet you don't have fucking interminable squabbles about down and out, or up and in - but it sounds a bit hard on on the family life. actually, i've just watched my kids Spagetti Bolognase - got any jobs? ;)
 
kebabking said:
there's well spent Roubles by the Russian Tourist Board: 'Russia: i prefered Syria myself...

interesting work - and i bet you don't have fucking interminable squabbles about down and out, or up and in - but it sounds a bit hard on on the family life. actually, i've just watched my kids Spagetti Bolognase - got any jobs? ;)
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If I never have to return to Russia again I will not be too upset. ;)

It is good here (disregarding the obvious) but you do get used to it. Ah Skype and WhatsApp are the big relationship savers, my GF misses me of course but we get real quality time together when I'm home, my kids are grown up one in Germany doing a traineeship, and the other starting studying back in UK and living at my parents place. Nah things are good. What you don't see on the news of course are the good things that happen here, and they do happen occasionally and those little things make a big difference.
 
Fuchs66 said:
Survived nearly 2 years on and off here, we're careful ;)
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So without saying where you are exactly, are you in the city, ie damascus itself? I read an article which i posted on the thread about how parts of regime held syria are still putting on rock concerts etc? On the news they often dont seem to differentiate between damascus itself and the surrounding bits...if you cant/dont want to answer, no worries btw
 
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