a club the other day had a self confessed nonce keep playing for them even though they knew. business is business apparently (adam johnson, sunderland)
Erm, perhaps there is a problem with the English law definition of rape?
Your argument that he is appealing so is probably innocent crosses the border into apologism.
Absolutely. There are all sorts of ex-defendants playing or working for football clubs, never mind acquitted ones.
How would you change it?
Rehabilitation, what's not to like?
you're all over the fucking shop. acquitted offenders? really?
Edited. Hardly a big deal.
tbh your posts on this thread fall below your usual high standard
Good question. (Yes, I recognise it's rhetorical.) Bloody hard because of the he-said, she-said inevitability. I yield to more informed urbans like trashpony.
that is not the urban way
why do you believe it a very very fine line?
At what point is a woman too drunk to consent? What if a drunken woman initiates sex? etc, etc
i'm not getting the sense you're confident in your answer.
Legally what?
What about the subjective test, which requires a jury to be convinced beyond reasonable doubt that he did not have a reasonable belief that she had consented?
At (at least) the point a man doesn't reasonably believe there's consent he ought to feel the full weight of the law. And that's an important limb of the current test.
...you don't know what you're on about
yeah and as said on other page theres ften wilful misunderstanding- I struggle to believe someone doesn't know when someone is is too drunk to have sex with
Unless they are too drunk themselves to form an intelligent opinion?
is 'the flesh willing' for a man when at piss yerself paralytic stage? I doubt it.
Of course, but it's not always going to be clear in the case of drugs and booze, is it? You can be sure that if a woman says no, is asleep, or so drunk she clearly doesn't know what's going on, she's not consenting. But what if she's very drunk and says yes, or actively encourages it?
