A United Front for a Sane Foreign Policy? Can Left and Right co operate?

[8ball]

Jesus fucking Christ. You’re full of shit.

Broad-brush. Not too much unpacking.
Solid example of the "does the job" genre, though.

 

[Carl Steele]

Jesus fucking Christ. You’re full of shit.

But how much have you read about Jesus Christ and shit?

 

[8ball]

But how much have you read about Jesus Christ and shit?

I hope this isn't going to turn into another anti-Jesus thread.

 

[danny la rouge]

But how much have you read about Jesus Christ and shit?

Enough for a lifetime on this thread.

 

[existentialist]

L. Ron Hubbard. Definitely.

Wait until he gets to the bit about putting your intention into the rocks and trees

 

[VirulentNeoCon]

The most reliable indicator in the USA of how well you will do financially and in a career is the post code of the place of your birth.

I wonder what you consider required reading on IQ. "The Bell Curve" perhaps.

And while we are on the subject of intelligence perhaps, as you are so well read, you could tell me what intelligence is.

Yes, of course The Bell Curve is the place to start. Wikipeidia's piece on IQ is also pretty good, but of course the Politically Correct Thought Police have put their stamp on the scary bits.
There is a guy in Scotland who has done a lot of work in this area: Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings

It's an interesting subject,.
However, I've had experience of discussing this with Leftists, and it's like discussing the divinity of Christ with fundamentalists, with the exception that the fundies argue in good faith.
So I won't continue here.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Do you think IQ is an accurate and reliable measure of intelligence?

It measures how good you are at IQ tests. You could be crazily bad at foreign policy but be a genius at IQ tests. The opposite could also be true.

 

[8ball]

It measures how good you are at IQ tests. You could be crazily bad at foreign policy but be a genius at IQ tests. The opposite could also be true.

Well, I have my doubts about the opposite to be fair, unless you're Forrest Gump, but he's a fictional character.

 

[rekil]

Irish mean IQ has climbed close to ten points over the last few years ... independently of the so-called "Flynn Effect". Why? Does it have anything to do with the loosening of the dead
hand of the Catholic Church from that country?

Oi'll drink t'dat! /bumps into every item of furniture in the room

Countdown to something about The Joo begins.

 

[kebabking]

Fucking demented.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Well, I have my doubts about the opposite to be fair, unless you're Forrest Gump, but he's a fictional character.

Or you may be just a thick cunt who got to where you are through privilege and be surrounded by advisors and whatnot.

 

[8ball]

Or you may be just a thick cunt who got to where you are through privilege and be surrounded by advisors and whatnot.

Yeah, you may have got into a particular position, but it wouldn't be correct to describe you as a genius at foreign policy in that case.

 

[8ball]

It's an interesting subject,.
However, I've had experience of discussing this with Leftists, and it's like discussing the divinity of Christ with fundamentalists, with the exception that the fundies argue in good faith.
So I won't continue here.

I also think it's an interesting subject.
And I agree that not continuing it here is probably the best idea.

 

[Carl Steele]

So I won't continue here.

No, because this is what you do. I asked you to define intelligence and you can't do it, so you make a feeble excuse and run away.

And remember Doug, I know you, I remember you, and you really weren't all that bright, by any conventional measure. You'd read a few books, you could regurgitate information, but that was about it. Your analytical abilities, by your own admission, were poor. And that's shown by your rambling, incoherent posts here, and by your evasion of every difficult question that comes your way.

 

[Dystopiary]

Fucking hell. How can you have someone who was a communist with no clue about class? Also the racism is just cuntish.

 

[hitmouse]

For those of you who haven't been following along with the Spart thread, over there he came out with this little gem, in praise of the Sparts' guru:

And congruent to this, he had a good understanding of 'the National Question', and what happens when you get 'interpenetrated peoples', something few
Americans are aware of. Thus the ludicrous bit of cant popular on the Left: "Diversity is Strength".

something something bit of a ludicrous cant himself etc.

 

[nogojones]

There is a guy in Scotland who has done a lot of work in this area: Peter Dow's political defence blog

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Yeah, you may have got into a particular position, but it wouldn't be correct to describe you as a genius at foreign policy in that case.

I love that you’re not letting me off.

 

[danny la rouge]

So I won't continue here.

 

[rekil]

More red flags than a May Day parade in Moscow, 1970. Holy fucking shit.

The thread title and the mental first post and all the subsequent posts were just a little bit red flaggy as well tbf.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Fucking hell. How can you have someone who was a communist with no clue about class?

Careful mentioning that here. You'll be accused of allsorts.

 

[NoXion]

The thread title and the mental first post and all the subsequent posts were just a little bit red flaggy as well tbf.

The lack of unqualified condemnation for the abuse that took place within the Spart organisation, even though the guy is long out of the org and doesn't even have the same politics any more, I took as a warning sign.

 

[RD2003]

I actually find his longer posts somewhat interesting. There's something to be said for the long-form post in this age of Tweets and microvideos. It's the extraneous, undirected abrasiveness and unwarranted attitude of superiority that makes me roll my eyes and question his integrity.

Sincere or not, I've found him a damn sight more interesting than 90% of posters on the politics boards.

 

[RD2003]

"Backward countries"

A routine and normal concept in Marx and Marxism before people on the left got so precious.

 

[8ball]

I love that you’re not letting me off.

Well, if we don't keep our arguments sharp, the other lot will for a higher price.

 

[A380]

A routine and normal concept in Marx and Marxism before people on the left got so precious.

And Engles was a member of his local hunt. Don’t mean we should all dress up in pinks and chase Reynald round the countryside….

 

[Humberto]

Is it still the case that the American Right, wants to hasten Armageddon?

Informing American foreign policy that is.

 

[RD2003]

(A380)

As far as I understood it, it was simply a reference to the way capitalism, not least through its imperialism, kept much of the world subservient to its interests, and prevented the populations of those countries from fulfilling their potential.

 

[A380]

(A380)

As far as I understood it, it was simply a reference to the way capitalism, not least through its imperialism, kept much of the world subservient to its interests, and prevented the populations of those countries from fulfilling their potential.

Gosh, really. Thanks for enlightening us poor little ignorant types. I bet you even read all the stuff about making shirts too.

 

[RD2003]

Gosh, really. Thanks for enlightening us poor little ignorant types. I bet you even read all the stuff about making shirts too.

(Shrugs).