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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Correct. With probably some NHS cuts thrown in.

You can't create 50,000 previously unneeded new jobs without diverting money from elsewhere.
I wouldn't worry too much. The article quoting 50,000 was a year old, and there were lots of similar articles at the time but it's all gone suspiciously quiet since then.

I did find this in The Grocer from January of this year:

Lack of 'competent' customs agents exacerbating border disruption

I don't think I've ever quoted The Grocer before.
 
I think they will be better laid than UC. Of course if you have figures to show that is not the case please do post them up rather keep shifting goalposts, which is rather tedious.
Er, seeing as you're the one claiming the jobs will be well paid it's up to you to back that up. So what have you got?
 
I wouldn't worry too much. The article quoting 50,000 was a year old, and there were lots of similar articles at the time but it's all gone suspiciously quiet since then.

I did find this in The Grocer from January of this year:

Lack of 'competent' customs agents exacerbating border disruption

I don't think I've ever quoted The Grocer before.
And what a clusterfuck it is

The government launched a major recruitment drive last year to recruit 50,000 customs agents to help fill the additional 260 million customs forms a year as a result of Brexit.

However, there is still believed to be a significant shortfall in agents, while many of those recruited started the job too late last year to receive appropriate training in time.

John Martin, NI policy manager at the Road Haulage Association, told a Stormont committee meeting on Wednesday there is “insufficient capacity” to service the haulage industry.

“Even some of the customs agents we do have are not competent to do the job because they’ve been recruited towards the latter part of last year, and there’s been insufficient training or time provided to enable those staff to be trained,” he added.

Since the new year, reports have emerged of shipments delayed due to minor issues such as documents printed in the wrong font size or filled using a red pen rather than blue, with some industry figures attributing it to lack of resource.

“Customs agents cannot cope,” said Ian Wright, FDF CEO. “The lack of capacity drives mistakes with no time to correct them. I suspect that’s true all the way down the chain: clients, suppliers, customs agents, hauliers, customs officials.”
 
Er, seeing as you're the one claiming the jobs will be well paid it's up to you to back that up. So what have you got?

My quote;

I think they will be better laid than UC.

laid is a typo for paid, apologies if that confused you. And HMRC has no inspectors who earn less than they would on UC.

Still waiting on the band quote, will check back after taking child to bed, Stig of the Dump tonight.
 
Checks watch.
Perhaps you've forgotten about when you were boasting about sending artists to the EU (none of which have been named, natch)
And things have changed.

Ignorant clueless person who has already sent many professional artists to the EU since January can offer you a clue, you seem determined not to listen and instead lament what is no longer possible. That's not going to help you get touring again though.

A glimpse of what a clueless could enlighten you with; your band, travelling by train as it does, with guitars and drumsticks as luggage doesn't need a carnet for travel in and around the EU...
And here's where you claim that 'process of touring Europe is now very similar to that of touring the US' (clue: it's really not) and that you knew better than the MU.


Game, set and match and goodnight.
 
Perhaps you've forgotten about when you were boasting about sending artists to the EU (none of which have been named, natch)

And here's where you claim that 'process of touring Europe is now very similar to that of touring the US' (clue: it's really not) and that you knew better than the MU.

i'm not sure that says what you've been saying it says the past few posts
 
i'm not sure that says what you've been saying it says the past few posts
I'm not sure I agree if you reread the entire thread.

In the context of a discussion about bands playing the EU, he was boasting that he'd had no problem sending over artists 'since January' and new better than the MU.

All attempts to find out who those lucky artists were continues to fall on stony ground.
 
I'm not sure I agree if you reread the entire thread.
yeh he said artists and says he meant the figurative sort rather than the audible type, you say he means the audible type ignoring his clarification.

i don't know that the continuation of this exchange between you and him is something really worthwhile for anyone

anyway there is the musicians eu thread to pursue that avenue if you so desire
 
Nice dirty, deceptive edit there. Here's the full sentence without your selective editing:



So what are the names of these bands?
A while ago I suggest to someone who I felt was behaving like a cunt to you that they should wind their neck in.

I'm now going to suggest that you're being repeatedly dishonest about this (BHS never said what you're claiming he said) so I'm going to suggest you stop behaving like a cunt and wind your neck in too.
 
Perhaps you've forgotten about when you were boasting about sending artists to the EU (none of which have been named, natch)

And here's where you claim that 'process of touring Europe is now very similar to that of touring the US' (clue: it's really not) and that you knew better than the MU.


Game, set and match and goodnight.

Not all artists are bands or musicians. Oops.
 
Perhaps you've forgotten about when you were boasting about sending artists to the EU (none of which have been named, natch)

And here's where you claim that 'process of touring Europe is now very similar to that of touring the US' (clue: it's really not) and that you knew better than the MU.


Game, set and match and goodnight.

Jesus, you even quoted me saying it: Not all artists are musicians. A shocker I know.
 
It's inevitably going to be paid for by cutting useful services elsewhere, though, isn't it?
My god Raheem , is this where you’ve ended up with balance the household budget guff ? There is an alternative to the rob Peter to pay Paul scenario , and that us to welcome job creation and at the same time to defend services . It’s the same for socialists whether they are in the UK or EU .
 
Conservatives in "stepping up privatisation of Customs" shocker.

Worse still, this latest plan becomes of particular concern, when you consider that towards the end of 2020, the department embarked on a frenzy of bringing-in staff using an Employment Agency; firstly under the guise of Brexit, then by using the pandemic as an excuse to hand HMRC work (that they were suddenly pleased to call “low hanging fruit”) to the Private Sector.

 
It's inevitably going to be paid for by cutting useful services elsewhere, though, isn't it?
My god Raheem , is this where you’ve ended up with balance the household budget guff ? There is an alternative to the rob Peter to pay Paul scenario , and that us to welcome job creation and at the same time to defend services . It’s the same for socialists whether they are in the UK or EU .
Don't be such a useful idiot. It's not a question of whether there's any alternative in principle, just of what is destined to happen. We're not dealing with Paris Commune, and how they intend to proceed is not really a secret. Unless you're expecting a hypothecated wealth tax, then if Paul is paid, Peter will be robbed in due course. The first part is nothing to cheer for, especially if Paul is being paid to do nothing useful.
 
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Jesus, you even quoted me saying it: Not all artists are musicians. A shocker I know.

But we were specifically talking about bands playing Europe. You were insisting that it was the same as playing the US (nope) and that you knew better than the Musicians Union.

But if you have absolutely zero experience of touring bands playing Europe post-Brexit, maybe you should just keep quiet rather than keep on suggesting that it's something you know about with your unnamed, unspecified 'artists.'
 
A while ago I suggest to someone who I felt was behaving like a cunt to you that they should wind their neck in.

I'm now going to suggest that you're being repeatedly dishonest about this (BHS never said what you're claiming he said) so I'm going to suggest you stop behaving like a cunt and wind your neck in too.
Oh it's you again. The lippy, pro-Brexit, pile-on, abusive one. I'll do as I please, thanks. And if there's any neck-winding to be done, I suggest you look closer to home. Like in your foul mouth.
 
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