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A thank you to Brexiteers.

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ddraig said:
Why do you think this is ok? :confused:
Do you think your industry is being attacked and feel affronted?? :confused:
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Do you really want to go back over it?
Here you go; poster A stated that he can move artists around Europe with no visa. Poster B assumed poster A was talking about musicians, poster A corrected poster B on that. Time passed and poster B steams back on to the thread with demands poster A name the bands poster A is moving. Poster A reminds B that not all artists are musicians, other posters also pointed out that poster B had got it wrong yet again, poster B accused poster A of being about to explode, which is a really silly thing to say, the kind of thing people often say when alcohol has been taken. Poster B, having twice read the same situation incorrectly then turns in to a mod and imposes forced ignore.

What is not OK about this? Apart from the usual moderator abuse?
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Do you really want to go back over it?
Here you go; poster A stated that he can move artists around Europe with no visa. Poster B assumed poster A was talking about musicians, poster A corrected poster B on that. Time passed and poster B steams back on to the thread with demands poster A name the bands poster A is moving. Poster A reminds B that not all artists are musicians, other posters also pointed out that poster B had got it wrong yet again, poster B accused poster A of being about to explode, which is a really silly thing to say, the kind of thing people often say when alcohol has been taken. Poster B, having twice read the same situation incorrectly then turns in to a mod and imposes forced ignore.

What is not OK about this? Apart from the usual moderator abuse?
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I thought making comments/insinuations/digs about posters drinking (whether true or not) was frowned upon and generally considered a bit far?
Wasn't asking for your repeated run down/version
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Do you really want to go back over it?
Here you go; poster A stated that he can move artists around Europe with no visa. Poster B assumed poster A was talking about musicians, poster A corrected poster B on that. Time passed and poster B steams back on to the thread with demands poster A name the bands poster A is moving. Poster A reminds B that not all artists are musicians, other posters also pointed out that poster B had got it wrong yet again, poster B accused poster A of being about to explode, which is a really silly thing to say, the kind of thing people often say when alcohol has been taken. Poster B, having twice read the same situation incorrectly then turns in to a mod and imposes forced ignore.

What is not OK about this? Apart from the usual moderator abuse?
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In an ongoing discussion strongly focussed on the well documented problems that small bands and musicians were facing playing Europe because of Brexit, you piped up saying you knew better.

Except it appears that you know fuck all about small bands playing Europe, while refusing to name these 'artists' you've been arranged travel for, or explaining what they actually do. So why don't you tell everyone now so they can decide if they have any relevance?

And to clear things up: do you think Brexit has made touring in Europe considerably harder for smaller bands or not?
 
This is the third time I am stating that I will not name my customers on the boards, what sort of fool are you to keep asking me that? I have offered twice to PM you some of their names if you are that fucking desperate to know.

And a reminder that you are supposed to keep threads on topic, the bands with a small number of people who want to hear them being fucked by Brexit thread is —->
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
This is the third time I am stating that I will not name my customers on the boards, what sort of fool are you to keep asking me that? I have offered twice to PM you some of their names if you are the fucking desperate to know.

And a reminder that you are supposed to keep threads on topic, the bands with a small number of people who want to hear them thread being fucked by Brexit is —->
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Then why bring them up to prove points that you are unable to support?

And, again: to clear things up: do you think Brexit has made touring in Europe considerably harder for smaller bands or not?

Oh, I must have missed your offer of PMs to name these mysterious 'artists' - feel free to do so now.
 
DJWrongspeed said:
Brexit will drag on ad infinitum distracting from the bigger issues. Once outside the block we're setting ourselves up for trade negotiations forever.
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as i have said somewhere on one of the threads, i suspect there will be a manufactured argument, probably involving that twat johnson sending a gunboat somewhere, just before every election for the foreseeable future...
 
editor said:
Oh, I must have missed your offer of PMs to name these mysterious 'artists' - feel free to do so now.
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Bahnhof Strasse said:
ffs, most of my customers who identify as artists are not musicians, I did just say that. And I am certainly not going to publicly name them here, will PM you if you're that bothered. They do however need special visas now to visit the EU, unless they use a work-around that their clever travel agent has set up for them.
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editor said:
And, again: to clear things up: do you think Brexit has made touring in Europe considerably harder for smaller bands or not?
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Probably, but we don’t know for as you well know no bands have toured this year.

The problems anticipated can, especially for small bands be mitigated if you listen to people who are moving people around who face the same regulations that musicians now face. But it seems that remainers too have had enough of experts, so carry on impotently ranting if it makes you happy.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Probably, but we don’t know for as you well know no bands have toured this year.

The problems anticipated can, especially for small bands be mitigated if you listen to people who are moving people around who face the same regulations that musicians now face. But it seems that remainers too have had enough of experts, so carry on impotently ranting if it makes you happy.
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PM please. I want to see if these 'artists' have the slightest relevance to small bands touring a post Brexit Europe. I suspect they won't.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Just have, fill yer boots.
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So I got a list of (presumably famous) make up artists, fashion editors and stylists I've never heard of, and not a single semi-pro/small band or musician currently playing playing Europe. Nothing. Just non musical business people that you describe as 'artists'.

No gigs, no festivals, no self managed small bands, and nothing even slightly relevant to the discussion about how Brexit has totally fucked over those kind of bands.

I'm sure you're excellent at your job in securing European visas for successful individuals in the fashion trade, but you've just proved to be me that you know absolutely nothing about the problems small bands playing Europe.

I note that you concede that the only two (well known) bands you're involved with haven't played Europe at all in the last 16 months either. If it's still all so easy as you keep claiming, why not?
 
For fuck sales. I did not secure visas, I wrote that to you in black and fucking white. I arranged a work around that also would work for musicians, actors and all artists. You just don’t want to listen as it doesn’t suit your agenda. There really is no helping some people. Enjoy not touring.
 
editor said:
I note that you concede that the only two (well known) bands you're involved with haven't played Europe at all in the last 16 months either. If it's still all so easy as you keep claiming, why not?
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COVID you utter fool.

If you really are this moronically stupid as to not understand when I said they have not toured due to Covid I mean they have not toured due to Covid then there is no way you should be allowed out of the country anyway, so it is good that you are not interested in understanding how your band can tour Europe again.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
For fuck sales. I did not secure visas, I wrote that to you in black and fucking white. I arranged a work around that also would work for musicians, actors and all artists. You just don’t want to listen as it doesn’t suit your agenda. There really is no helping some people. Enjoy not touring.
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there are none so blind as those who will not see
 
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