A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Supine]

Suggesting mainland EU start to annex Ireland is the kind of pompous brexiteer nonsense that got us into this mess.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not sure a customs officer is going to be much use checking containerloads of stuff coming off a boat.

That's precisely what customs officers do.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Suggesting mainland EU start to annex Ireland is the kind of pompous brexiteer nonsense that got us into this mess.

It already is for people, so why not for pork chops?

 

[two sheds]

That's precisely what customs officers do.

Indeed, you'll need more than one in a cubicle to check large numbers of containers coming off a boat though.

 

[Spymaster]

As Spy says, only real solution is for NI and Eire to join.

Well that would be grand but my point was rather that Ireland may well leave the EU in the future. I'd put money on them being the next out.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Indeed, you'll need more than one in a cubicle to check large numbers of containers coming off a boat though.

If the tax-dodgers flee Ireland there's gonna be a lot of people needing work, it's a win-win.

 

[editor]

If the tax-dodgers flee Ireland there's gonna be a lot of people needing work, it's a win-win.

Have you remembered the names of these bands you say are having no problem touring Europe yet?

Still, all musicians can be overjoyed at the news of Liechtenstein opening up. A truly worthy alternative.

Will UK bands start touring in Liechtenstein?

We could only find evidence of a handful of British artists travelling to Liechtenstein over the last decade - with Status Quo, Welsh rock act Skindred and drummer Simon Phillips among those to have played there.

Cabinet minister ridiculed for boast about saving permit-free music tours to tiny Liechtenstein

Agreement with alpine microstate near-identical to that offered by 27-nation EU – which UK rejected

www.independent.co.uk

A cabinet minister has been ridiculed for boasting about a deal to rescue visa-free music tours to tiny Liechtenstein – an agreement the UK rejected for the 27-nation EU.

Oliver Dowden came under fire after revealing a trade deal with three European Free Trade Association (EFTA) states included a chapter to remove barriers for performing artists and their crews.


“Delighted that our new trade deal with Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein will allow musicians, performers and support crews to tour easily there,” the culture secretary tweeted.


In fact, the small print of the text revealed that no final agreement has been reached with Iceland – and the deal with Norway may not kick in for another year.

Furthermore, the aim of the agreement is identical to that offered by the EU in the Brexit trade talks which, as The Independent revealed in January, the UK rejected.

 

[editor]

And Brexit keeps on delivering

Brexit red tape: Should I move my food businesses to the EU?

With more businesses relocating abroad to beat Brexit delays, customs expert Arne Mielken of Customs Manager looks at the pros and cons of setting up an EU base.

www.foodmanufacture.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Have you remembered the names of these bands you say are having no problem touring Europe yet?

Here you go again with your lies.

Please show me where I said bands were having no problem touring Europe. Thank you.

 

[Spymaster]

It's Groundhog Day.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Since you can't find where I said it, I'll give you a clue; the post you think you are referring to mentioned artists, not bands. No bands are touring Europe right now. The Rolling Stones couldn't tour Europe right now, that is cos Covid means no gigs and heavy travel restrictions.

 

[Steel Icarus]

It's Groundhog Day.

Again.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The plutocratic reactionary forces of the EU Troika have banned our sausages....

Brexit sausage war as Tories attack EU banger ban - that they allowed to happen

The spat over sausage trade with Northern Ireland risks dragging in US President Joe Biden - as the UK brands the EU's rules "nonsensical" while the EU warns of "swift, firm" retaliation

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Spymaster]

Since you can't find where I said it, I'll give you a clue; the post you think you are referring to mentioned artists, not bands. No bands are touring Europe right now. The Rolling Stones couldn't tour Europe right now, that is cos Covid means no gigs and heavy travel restrictions.

Please, please, please, please. please!

No more posts about fucking bands. There’s a separate thread available for the two or three people who actually give a fuck about this.

 

[The39thStep]

and no more anti Liechtenstein prejudice please. Think of it as an untapped market , a new frontier .

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

and no more anti Liechtenstein prejudice please. Think of it as an untapped market , a new frontier .

Was there just last August, was very pleasant...

 

[andysays]

No, a hard border, manned with immigration officers at the ports and airports. You fly Paris to Malta there's no immigration officers or documents required, fly Paris to Dublin there are immigration officers and passports/id cards are needed.

Isn't that because Eire isn't part of Schengen?

I don't know/remember what the reasoning behind that decision was, and if it has anything to do with the common travel area between UK and Eire, and/or UK not being in Schengen.

 

[The39thStep]

Iceland is full of great bands , be a treat for the U.K. for them to tour once covid is over

 

[andysays]

Here you go again with your lies.

Please show me where I said bands were having no problem touring Europe. Thank you.

Actually, can we please keep this whole discussion about British bands and other creative artistes touring the EU on the special thread created to discuss that because its such an important subject, worthy of its own special thread.

(this request is aimed as much at editor as Bahnhof Strasse)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Isn't that because Eire isn't part of Schengen?

I don't know/remember what the reasoning behind that decision was, and if it has anything to do with the common travel area between UK and Eire, and/or UK not being in Schengen.

100% Schengen/Common Travel Area.

But to do the same for some goods would cause the sky to fall in, according to some.

 

[two sheds]

and only need one customs wallah in a cubicle to check all trucks arriving in the EU, according to others.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

and only need one customs wallah in a cubicle to check all trucks arriving in the EU, according to others.

Depends how thorough you want to check them of course, as mentioned, the higher the EU forces Ireland's unemployment levels to rise the more people they can train as custom wallahs. The UK's getting an extra 50,000 apparently, UK races to find extra 50,000 staff for post-Brexit paperwork , the British Isles could become a customs based joint economy, another Brexit win.

 

[brogdale]

100% Schengen/Common Travel Area.

But to do the same for some goods would cause the sky to fall in, according to some.

Although 5 EU member states are not part of the Schengen common visa policy, Ireland is the only one with an opt-out position necessitating its own visa policy wrt other member states.

 

[two sheds]

Depends how thorough you want to check them of course, as mentioned, the higher the EU forces Ireland's unemployment levels to rise the more people they can train as custom wallahs. The UK's getting an extra 50,000 apparently, UK races to find extra 50,000 staff for post-Brexit paperwork , the British Isles could become a customs based joint economy, another Brexit win.

There's not going to be a lot of room in that cubicle

 

[andysays]

Although 5 EU member states are not part of the Schengen common visa policy, Ireland is the only one with an opt-out position necessitating its own visa policy wrt other member states.

Can you expand/explain this bit please

 

[brogdale]

Can you expand/explain this bit please

From this Irish Gov site

e2a: loads on Wiki

 

[andysays]

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From this Irish Gov site

e2a: loads on Wiki

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but I thought your previous post referred to special rules relating to travel from other EU/EEA states, whereas that wiki link appears to refer to people travelling from non EU/EEA states or people who are citizens of non EU/EEA states.

The fact that Eire is not part of the Schengen agreement means (as I understand it) that anyone travelling from Eire to the rest of the EU/EEA (except the CTA with the UK) has to show some form of paperwork to prove they're entitled to enter the Schengen area.

Is that in any different for any of the other non-Schengen EU nations?

 

[brogdale]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but I thought your previous post referred to special rules relating to travel from other EU/EEA states, whereas that wiki link appears to refer to people travelling from non EU/EEA states or people who are citizens of non EU/EEA states.

The fact that Eire is not part of the Schengen agreement means (as I understand it) that anyone travelling from Eire to the rest of the EU/EEA (except the CTA with the UK) has to show some form of paperwork to prove they're entitled to enter the Schengen area.

Is that in any different for any of the other non-Schengen EU nations?

I think I've reached the limit of my knowledge here; maybe some of the better informed folk like Bahnhof Strasse might be able to help with that?

 

[two sheds]

Or Spy could make something up












/scarpers

 

[gosub]

Well that would be grand but my point was rather that Ireland may well leave the EU in the future. I'd put money on them being the next out.

That won't work.
The EUro
You would need an exit mechanism, and I think there are other EUrozone members that are better candidates for pioneering that one