A thank you to Brexiteers.

[existentialist]

looks like, if they still want to come, seasonal workers can get straight to work on the farm if staying in farm accommodation so thats generous.

[Withdrawn] Coming to England for seasonal agricultural, horticultural work or pork processing

Advice for seasonal agricultural, horticultural workers and pork butchers coming to England to work on farms or processing sites or at slaughterhouses, and their employers.

www.gov.uk

The phrase "cherrypicking" comes to mind, and I'm not thinking about what the seasonal agricultural workers will be doing...

 

[two sheds]

won't be doing ...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Except it's about elderly people who have retired to Spain.

Who have had five years to apply for residency.

 

[Pickman's model]

looks like, if they still want to come, seasonal workers can get straight to work on the farm if staying in farm accommodation so thats generous.

[Withdrawn] Coming to England for seasonal agricultural, horticultural work or pork processing

Advice for seasonal agricultural, horticultural workers and pork butchers coming to England to work on farms or processing sites or at slaughterhouses, and their employers.

www.gov.uk

Must be in groups of six kept strictly separate
Must quarantine if not staying on farm
And of course the traditional British welcome will be offered to all foreigners coming to work in the uk

I don't think too many will be coming here this year and I have none of your confidence in baristas or au pairs arriving in droves

 

[existentialist]

Who have had five years to apply for residency.

I guess a lot of those simply had no clue - having enjoyed 50 years of free movement - that they might have to jump through some hoops to regularise their position. But there have also been English immigrants to Spain who clearly thought that regularising their position, even pre-Brexit, was something for other people to do.

It is good that these people have been generous enough to provide us with such liberal helpings of schadenfreude (I guess we're going to need a new word for this concept, now we're all British and that).

 

[Pickman's model]

I guess a lot of those simply had no clue - having enjoyed 50 years of free movement - that they might have to jump through some hoops to regularise their position. But there have also been English immigrants to Spain who clearly thought that regularising their position, even pre-Brexit, was something for other people to do.

It is good that these people have been generous enough to provide us with such liberal helpings of schadenfreude (I guess we're going to need a new word for this concept, now we're all British and that).

We should all learn other German words now

 

[ska invita]

Who have had five years to apply for residency.

yes theyve only got themselves to blame.

but the new reality is from now on the retire to spain thing is only available to those swimming in money.

 

[existentialist]

We should all learn other German words now

"Weltschmerz"

 

[editor]

Who have had five years to apply for residency.

And it's all been made crystal clear to the, eh?

Britons in Europe are being denied access to bank accounts, jobs, healthcare and university places due to post-Brexit red tape - even though access to those services is guaranteed under the withdrawal agreement.

Those living in Spain, Italy and France say they have been hit by new rules which are poorly understood by local officials who are now demanding they produce documents which are difficult or impossible for them to obtain.

One expat living in Spain who spoke to MailOnline said people applying for new TIE residency cards are having to wait seven months to get one. While stuck in the queue, they are told the application forms can be used in place of the card itself.

But in one case, a bank refused to let a newly-arrived Briton open an account using the application form - meaning he was unable to get a phone contract or rent a property.

The source added that many Britons are also experiencing problems at the UK border while trying to depart for Spain because British guards do not recognise the new residency applications and are refusing to accept them as proof.

Last week, a group of Spanish officials in Alicante airport turned 40 British expats around and sent them home because of the same issue.

The Britons had boarded a flight in Manchester - which is permitted under Covid rules which allow people to travel to their country of residence - on March 29 expecting to be allowed to enter Spain using their application papers.

But upon arrival, officials at the Spanish border told them the applications did not count and sent them home on the same plane they had arrived on.

(*from the Mail so no link included)

 

[Pickman's model]

"Weltschmerz"

I was thinking along the lines of zwei bier bitte, entschuldigung, habst du feuer, wer ist Boris Johnson, hande hoch herr Johnson etc. As the genuine power differentials between Germany and the UK become apparent

 

[existentialist]

I was thinking along the lines of zwei bier bitte, entschuldigung, habst du feuer, wer ist Boris Johnson, hande hoch herr Johnson etc. As the genuine power differentials between Germany and the UK become apparent

I think, should that eventuality arise, I'll just learn a bunch of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche quotes in German, and go with those...

 

[Pickman's model]

I think, should that eventuality arise, I'll just learn a bunch of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche quotes in German, and go with those...

And maybe a bit of Russian, davai davai, yob t'voy madj etc

 

[Artaxerxes]

Except it's about elderly people who have retired to Spain.

When you retire from now on your only allowed to retire to Margate.

 

[existentialist]

When you retire from now on your only allowed to retire to Margate.

Retire? I think that's going to be the next thing that's for the chop...

Unless, of course, you are filthy rich.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Retire? I think that's going to be the next thing that's for the chop...

Unless, of course, you are filthy rich.

Yep

 

[Supine]

Supermarkets face post-Brexit fruit and veg scarcity due to shortage of pickers

Government's failure to allow in enough EU workers and new rules limiting visas for seasonal pickers are expected to leave tonnes of crops to rot while shelves lie empty

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

yes theyve only got themselves to blame.

but the new reality is from now on the retire to spain thing is only available to those swimming in money.

(((Breadline bods retiring to Spain)))

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

And it's all been made crystal clear to the, eh?





(*from the Mail so no link included)

My step-mum who has lived in the U.K. for >30 years called me a few days after the vote. After calling her a cunt and shouting that she should fuck off from whence she came I advised her that the U.K. was leaving the EU and that at some point she would need to apply for U.K. residency, an online form and about £120. The sky didn’t fall in for her.

 

[Pickman's model]

And it's all been made crystal clear to the, eh?





(*from the Mail so no link included)

one broken link for the curious https://w ww. daily mail .co. uk/news/article-9440843/British-expats-denied-basic-services-Europe-post-Brexit-red-tape.html

 

[editor]

My step-mum who has lived in the U.K. for >30 years called me a few days after the vote. After calling her a cunt and shouting that she should fuck off from whence she came I advised her that the U.K. was leaving the EU and that at some point she would need to apply for U.K. residency, an online form and about £120. The sky didn’t fall in for her.

Thank heavens for your one-size-fits-all personal anecdotes!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Thank heavens for your one-size-fits-all personal anecdotes!

Yeah, real world examples of how things are should always be discounted in favour of theoretical righteous anger.

 

[editor]

Yeah, real world examples of how things are should always be discounted in favour of righteous anger.

Yeah, the well documented problems people are suffering through Brexit are always trumped by your handy selection of unverifiable personal anecdotes.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yeah, the well documented problems people are suffering through Brexit are always trumped by your handy selection of unverifiable personal anecdotes.

How would you like me to verify scary Mary’s journey?

fwiw it was 30 minutes on the phone and a card payment. Pretty much every other documented resident has faced the same. Those that didn’t are fawned over by the same pricks that laugh at U.K. citizens that fucked up the same process in Spain, deriding them as ‘gammons’.

 

[editor]

How would you like me to verify scary Mary’s journey?

fwiw it was 30 minutes on the phone and a card payment. Pretty much every other documented resident has faced the same. Those that didn’t are fawned over by the same pricks that laugh at U.K. citizens that fucked up the same process in Spain, deriding them as ‘gammons’.

No I'd rather you stop reducing every thing to down to your own personal, point-proving anecdotes and using them to trump or silence comments on the very real problems a vastly greater number of people are experiencing daily because of Brexit.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Opening up access to universities was a great thing
No one is forced to go to university

Nurses are, they weren’t when we were young. There’s even talk of filth needing a degree in future. All this is down to that war criminal Blair.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

No I'd rather you stop reducing every thing to down to your own personal, point-proving anecdotes and using them to trump or silence comments on the very real problems a vastly greater number of people are experiencing daily because of Brexit.

OK. Stop blathering on about your poxy band then.
Deal?

 

[editor]

OK. Stop blathering on about your poxy band then.
Deal?

When was the last time I mentioned my 'poxy band' in this thread?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Opening up access to universities was a great thing
No one is forced to go to university, the opportunity should be there for everyone

The Tories are successfully closing the door to broad access to university education and trying to return it to something for the rich/compliant productive workers only, so hooray for that

Tution fees started under Blair. He pushed for 50% even while making it exclusive.

Even the open uni charges a mint for degrees now.

 

[Elpenor]

If you’re charging for Uni, it makes business sense to get as many people to pay for it as possible so you have more money to spend on illegal wars

 

[Supine]

Nurses are, they weren’t when we were young. There’s even talk of filth needing a degree in future. All this is down to that war criminal Blair.

Vocal brexiteer is anti-education. What a surprise.