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A thank you to Brexiteers.

What "Brexit deal blocks life-saving cancer drug in NI" I am anti-Brexit but am also willing to point out how shite the NI protocol is for NI. The deal that Brexiteers negotiated.

Your story is U.K. approves a drug that the EU doesn’t and as a result of the EU wishing to protect its border people in NI can’t get it (even though in the real world they can). The deal was negotiated by both sides, that the Tories don’t care about Northern Ireland is hardly news to anyone other than the morons at the DUP, that a drug that can save lives is approved by the U.K. whilst the EU spends the next six months debating the issue leads to deaths. As they say, cool story...
 
is that all really the case, anyone know?
This in the TWitter thread relates to France, but comment beneath says its simliar for Spain
i've an invite from a friend in Spain to stay with and was going to take them up on it

"if you are staying with friends, you need to be registered with the town hall of the commune that you will be staying at PRIOR TO ENTERING THE COUNTRY.
The person housing you will need to provide a chunk of information (including proof of ownership of the property, proof of residence at the address, ID documents, proof of revenue, commit to supporting you financially if required and so on). There is a 30€ fee.
The relevant town hall can take up to one month to respond. The applicant will be issued with a certificate which they will then need to send to you for you to be able to enter the country."

It’s scaremongering bollocks. As of 1st January when entering the EU the same rules apply as have always applied going to Turkey, Tunisia, the US and so on; be prepared to state why you are travelling (don’t say for work, say tourism or business), show you have the means to support yourself whilst away (a credit card), possession of a ticket to leave the EU (some travel agents provide these at no cost if you ask nicely).

More agg than before but hardly world ending.
 
It’s scaremongering bollocks. As of 1st January when entering the EU the same rules apply as have always applied going to Turkey, Tunisia, the US and so on; be prepared to state why you are travelling (don’t say for work, say tourism or business), show you have the means to support yourself whilst away (a credit card), possession of a ticket to leave the EU (some travel agents provide these at no cost if you ask nicely).

More agg than before but hardly world ending.
So is that stuff about going to the Hotel D'Ville a lie?
 
The U.K. has left the EU, for better or worse. The U.K. will not be rejoining anytime soon, certainly not within most of our lifetimes. So we need to face up to that and learn to deal with it. Endless whinging about this or that inconvenience will not change the situation, so better to face reality and learn how the now order works.
 
Sure, there are many subtle changes and they are our new reality. Think about the rules for going to the US, Canada, Turkey and so on and that’s what we now face; an online form and small payment, plus a plausible excuse to give to the immigration bods. Things aren’t as easy as they were with regards to travel, but they are no harder than going anywhere that isn’t in the EU.
 
The U.K. has left the EU, for better or worse. The U.K. will not be rejoining anytime soon, certainly not within most of our lifetimes. So we need to face up to that and learn to deal with it. Endless whinging about this or that inconvenience will not change the situation, so better to face reality and learn how the now order works.

So it’s ok for you to bang on about how much better UK is vs EU on things like drug approvals but we can’t disagree or point out all the negatives? Seems fair :hmm:
 
So it’s ok for you to bang on about how much better UK is vs EU on things like drug approvals but we can’t disagree or point out all the negatives? Seems fair :hmm:

You can point out the negatives all you like, there are many, but it won’t change a thing. Better to spend your energy making the best of the new reality, cos it ain’t going anywhere soon.
 
Fwiw from what my punters report, EU immigration bods have been fairly relaxed except the Dutch who seem to be fucking hostile to anyone with a U.K. passport. Everything is fucked up cos Covid which distorts shit as the EU has laid down diktats that countries such as Portugal were prepared to implement, on the same day that Germany opened its borders to any cunt that is vaccinated. As it happens the Portugal faff is another load of bollocks as (as we know) individual countries have sovereignty over their borders and Portugal’s reluctance was just being scared of their overlord’s reaction.
 

Some smaller EU exporters have given up on the UK because of new trade barriers, according to Building magazine. Peter Caplehorn, the CPA’s chief executive, said last week that the UK could run out of key materials because there are not enough facilities to test them and provide the new UKCA certification which replaces the European CE quality mark.

Even those builders in the southeast who have materials are finding it impossible to recruit skilled workers because the number of construction workers from the EU in the UK has fallen by 42% since 2017, from 208,067 to 120,723 – nearly all having worked in London. “Don’t even go there,” Hayter said. “There’s not a shortage – there’s just no labour. The cupboard’s bare.”
 
The U.K. has left the EU, for better or worse. The U.K. will not be rejoining anytime soon, certainly not within most of our lifetimes. So we need to face up to that and learn to deal with it. Endless whinging about this or that inconvenience will not change the situation, so better to face reality and learn how the now order works.
Yes by researching genealogy to discover eligibility for an EU passport
 
You can point out the negatives all you like, there are many, but it won’t change a thing. Better to spend your energy making the best of the new reality, cos it ain’t going anywhere soon.
That's exactly what i said to the little man down the road yesterday who sells plants, he was whinging on about how he has to pay double to import plants now, get with the program says i whining won't help make yr little business viable will it you loser. :)
 
That's exactly what i said to the little man down the road yesterday who sells plants, he was whinging on about how he has to pay double to import plants now, get with the program says i whining won't help make yr little business viable will it you loser. :)
As you stuck an 'i'm backing britain' sticker on his lapel
 
That's exactly what i said to the little man down the road yesterday who sells plants, he was whinging on about how he has to pay double to import plants now, get with the program says i whining won't help make yr little business viable will it you loser. :)

Should tell him that he doesn’t need to import plants, they just grow out of the ground all by themselves.
 

One element that pushes banks to move some senior dealmakers to Europe is the requirement for client-facing bankers in London or elsewhere outside the EU to have a local ‘chaperone’ whenever they speak to, or interact with, clients. Moving inside the bloc removes that necessity.
 
Dozens of junior staff have been called into work to move the bloated bankers from their offices onto the articulated lorries driving them to their new homes. "It's like moving a score of Jabba the Hutts" said one sweating man.
 
There is a shortage of materials. We have houses waiting for roof tiles and various other things have been affected.

According to Frau Bahn’s mum’s builder that is down to Suez. The shortage of EU builders is down to Brexit (and Covid) making it harder to come to the U.K. thereby pushing up the costs of employing tradespeople. Everyone I personally know who works in trades are turning down work in favour of more lucrative jobs. It’s a pain fit those who want a crappy job done on the cheap, but I don’t see it as anything other than positive.
 
According to Frau Bahn’s mum’s builder that is down to Suez. The shortage of EU builders is down to Brexit (and Covid) making it harder to come to the U.K. thereby pushing up the costs of employing tradespeople. Everyone I personally know who works in trades are turning down work in favour of more lucrative jobs. It’s a pain fit those who want a crappy job done in the cheap, but I don’t see it as anything other than positive.
Now they can get a crappy job done dear I see

Some years back there was a great development in dalston, fuck loads of flats a new library and public space. Those flats weren't expected by the constructors to last 30 years. You read of new builds which have more faults than window panes. Obvs nab. But when everyone involved in many construction projects knows the properties aren't expected to live much longer than a cossetted cat, where many of the materials have been chosen for their cost rather than their quality, where's the incentive to do a grand job?
 
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We can’t even get builders to do stuff we need doing until the Autumn, possibly not until next year. I suspect that will mean having to pay a lot more as prices rise to meet demand and we might not be able to afford to do everything we want.

a lot of this is Covid rather than Brexit, people wanting home alterations to create offices for home working, people sat at home coming up with ideas of things they could do, things that couldn’t be done over the last year all wanting to be done now. Shitty timing for us basically.
 
We can’t even get builders to do stuff we need doing until the Autumn, possibly not until next year. I suspect that will mean having to pay a lot more as prices rise to meet demand and we might not be able to afford to do everything we want.

a lot of this is Covid rather than Brexit, people wanting home alterations to create offices for home working, people sat at home coming up with ideas of things they could do, things that couldn’t be done over the last year all wanting to be done now. Shitty timing for us basically.

Plus having more money spare as two years with no holidays and so on.
 
We can’t even get builders to do stuff we need doing until the Autumn, possibly not until next year. I suspect that will mean having to pay a lot more as prices rise to meet demand and we might not be able to afford to do everything we want.

a lot of this is Covid rather than Brexit, people wanting home alterations to create offices for home working, people sat at home coming up with ideas of things they could do, things that couldn’t be done over the last year all wanting to be done now. Shitty timing for us basically.
Yep i think its mostly covid. People have been buying houses like its loo roll, and those that can't move are doing Stuff to the houses they're already in. I think that'll continue for at least a year or two as the covid-related divorces get processed and even more people move house.
 
According to Frau Bahn’s mum’s builder that is down to Suez. The shortage of EU builders is down to Brexit (and Covid) making it harder to come to the U.K. thereby pushing up the costs of employing tradespeople. Everyone I personally know who works in trades are turning down work in favour of more lucrative jobs. It’s a pain fit those who want a crappy job done on the cheap, but I don’t see it as anything other than positive.
Yes.
There is a shortage of materials though.
 
The U.K. has left the EU, for better or worse. The U.K. will not be rejoining anytime soon, certainly not within most of our lifetimes. So we need to face up to that and learn to deal with it. Endless whinging about this or that inconvenience will not change the situation, so better to face reality and learn how the now order works.
It’s not whinging, it’s pointing out what a stupid idea it was and how it doesn’t match up with the promises made.
 
Take the point about builders' wages going up being a generally good thing. Not only the middle classes who will be affected though. I can afford the increases, a lot of nurses and key workers (for example) whose wages haven't kept pace won't be able to.
 
I don't think many tears are going to get shed over these arseholes going but most of the staff a bit lower down the tree won't move with them. They will just get fired and replaced by local hires in the countries their former bosses have moved to.
 
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