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A thank you to Brexiteers.

When the brexit ref was announced just about everybody I knew where enthusiastic about voting to leave. Many could not even give a reason. The EU & Europe was so far removed from their lives in the town they live in they just could not see the point of membership. Nothing in the campaign convinced them or needed to. Their minds were made up already. Many of them rarely voted in elections because they could not see the point but they voted leave in the ref because they saw the point of leaving something they saw no point of being a member of.

Their minds have not changed since nor will they. They always saw the EU & some of it’s members as the enemy & anything that has happened since has not changed their minds on that nor will it. I am not so sure that what is written in the popular right wing press forms their opinions more so I think it just reflects their already long held opinions.

Generally they are racist. They see the white people around them as the people that belong here & those with brown or black skin even UK born merely as guests in this country who will never belong.

This is why I think working class people make the seemingly irrational decision to vote Tory. While any critical thinker would argue that the Tories do not represent the interests of the working class I think plenty of white W/c people would say the current far right government masquerading as traditional tories represent their interests exactly.

Throughout my working life of truck driving since the 1970s I was surrounded by some of the most horribly racist extremist right wing white working class men that it was my misfortune to know & I know that those in my town now. That is polite urbane people some working some retired hold horribly racist world views. Just ordinary white working class folk living in provincial towns. Vile racists most of them. The current Tory party is perfect for them & they deserve each other.
 
think its because people keep trying to bring in the vaccine roll out as something of a plus for brexit

tbh the uk was still under eu conditions when the Vaccine was approved by the MHRA, you are allowed under EU rules to approved something
if you have a rampant disease running thru you population

after that the uk just signed up quicker to buy more of it

Vaccine nationalism is ballocks oddly enough

Vaccines are nothing to do with Brexit. The EU had to order 7 times the amount the UK ordered. You don't get that overnight. Given the numbers production problems are amplified.
They are only 4 weeks behind the UK to vaccinate everyone, given the population of 488 million, ticking along ok. Just took a bit longer to get going.
Spun out to intolerable bullshit by politicians and the press.
 
Vaccines are nothing to do with Brexit. The EU had to order 7 times the amount the UK ordered. You don't get that overnight. Given the numbers production problems are amplified.
They are only 4 weeks behind the UK to vaccinate everyone, given the population of 488 million, ticking along ok. Just took a bit longer to get going.
Spun out to intolerable bullshit by politicians and the press.

think we agree on the same point :)
 
When the brexit ref was announced just about everybody I knew where enthusiastic about voting to leave. Many could not even give a reason. The EU & Europe was so far removed from their lives in the town they live in they just could not see the point of membership. Nothing in the campaign convinced them or needed to. Their minds were made up already. Many of them rarely voted in elections because they could not see the point but they voted leave in the ref because they saw the point of leaving something they saw no point of being a member of.

Their minds have not changed since nor will they. They always saw the EU & some of it’s members as the enemy & anything that has happened since has not changed their minds on that nor will it. I am not so sure that what is written in the popular right wing press forms their opinions more so I think it just reflects their already long held opinions.

Generally they are racist. They see the white people around them as the people that belong here & those with brown or black skin even UK born merely as guests in this country who will never belong.

This is why I think working class people make the seemingly irrational decision to vote Tory. While any critical thinker would argue that the Tories do not represent the interests of the working class I think plenty of white W/c people would say the current far right government masquerading as traditional tories represent their interests exactly.

Throughout my working life of truck driving since the 1970s I was surrounded by some of the most horribly racist extremist right wing white working class men that it was my misfortune to know & I know that those in my town now. That is polite urbane people some working some retired hold horribly racist world views. Just ordinary white working class folk living in provincial towns. Vile racists most of them. The current Tory party is perfect for them & they deserve each other.
Give it a rest Bob , you posted some interesting stuff up at first . However it’s now coming across like one mans fight against lynchings , concentration camps and the 4th Reich .
 
Give it a rest Bob , you posted some interesting stuff up at first . However it’s now coming across like one mans fight against lynchings , concentration camps and the 4th Reich .
Yes that’s just what It is but as indicated from the first page onwards this bin dodging thread & it’s sometimes bitter twisted content richly deserve each other. ;)
 
Yeah, a reduced risk of dying from COVID-19 isn't generally cited as one of the benefits of living under the Johnson regime.

The ‘U.K. variant’ that is killing thousands in Europe is on us, poor control of the virus (late lockdown, fucked up track and trace) gave It a large poorly protected host population where mutations had a greater chance of occurring. ‘Let it rip’ they said.
 
Vaccines are nothing to do with Brexit. The EU had to order 7 times the amount the UK ordered. You don't get that overnight. Given the numbers production problems are amplified.
They are only 4 weeks behind the UK to vaccinate everyone, given the population of 488 million, ticking along ok. Just took a bit longer to get going.
Spun out to intolerable bullshit by politicians and the press.

Yeah, like this politician...

 
Eu membership was never a block to having Freeports in the UK. There were specific reasons for having them ie Southampton the BAT fag factory making Dunhill, Lucky Strike etc among other well known brands for export which allowed the factory to import the tobacco tax free for it to be made into fags for export.

The factory which was claimed to be the most efficient fag production facility in the world closed in 2006 & production moved to Eastern Europe to cut costs. It wasn’t just foreign workers in the UK that caused many to vote brexit it was because their own well paid jobs had been exported to Eastern Europe years ago.

Reading up about Freeports seems to suggest they are just a gimmick which could encourage large scale tax fraud & jobs created could well mean loss of jobs in other parts of the country.
 
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When the brexit ref was announced just about everybody I knew where enthusiastic about voting to leave. Many could not even give a reason. The EU & Europe was so far removed from their lives in the town they live in they just could not see the point of membership. Nothing in the campaign convinced them or needed to. Their minds were made up already. Many of them rarely voted in elections because they could not see the point but they voted leave in the ref because they saw the point of leaving something they saw no point of being a member of.

Sounds like people are much more engaged when they actually get to make decisions in the political process, rather than having to delegate them to some publicly-educated schoolboy who offered empty promises in return for a cushy job.
 
I think the British people are too easily divided or distracted.

Certain scenarios I thought would ignite rage throughout the country did not. But when a lady puts a cat in a bin, the country LOST ITS MIND!

So, good luck.
 
when i last looked at welding jobs five years ago they were paying less than ten pounds an hour round here. had a look today and theres jobs for twenty pounds an hour!
had a look at plumbing jobs and they were up to sixty pounds an hour!
could it be anything to do with the tap of cheap skilled labour being turned off?
 
Soon we will have the whinging middle classes complaining again at having to pay decent money for skilled workers.

Never mind that, the cost of flights to Tuscany and Avignon are going up :mad: :mad: and I have to queue up for the bliddy passport nonsense now!
 
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