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A thank you to Brexiteers.

amusing quote in guardian story about passports and travel across Europe

“I had no idea of the 10-year rule,” she says. “I’d checked the expiry date, and my passport had eight months remaining. What happened at the boarding gate was absolutely awful. I lost the cost of the flight and the accommodation I’d booked – I’d been so looking forward to seeing my son – all because a load of wankers voted for Brexit.

 
I don't know - among this board's handful of Brexiteers, at least, there seems to have been a gradual shift from arguing that Brexit is going well to arguing that Brexit could be a good thing under the right government to, most recently, soliciting arguments for rejoining that they can attack.
Nope. Conceed ain't the Brexit I would have gone for.But it is what it is. Feel free to come up with arguments for rejoining if you want, aint happening
 
There’s a huge difference in outcome as well you know.
im honestly surprised to hear you say that
you really expected something different than this? very 'optimistic' if so, i would say delusional, though dont want to offend.
i thought the lexit case was much more about long term gain for short/mid term pain? once in a lifetime chance to do this, whatever the fallout. seems i misunderstood
i also remember the kick business in the balls talk
i actually expected a worse outcome than this - so far - and there is time yet - i expected much more deregulation than we have yet had
bonfire of laws and a US trade deal are yet to come though. the next tory/republican combo looms
 
Thing is, aside from addressing the obvious economic self-harm caused by withdrawing from the trading bloc, those pinning their hopes on the Brejoin panacea are in many respects as delusional as those who convinced themselves that Leaving the supra state was capable of effecting any significant change for working people.
 
not holding my breath but i think eventually one or other of the political parties will break cover & start making noise about brejoining, because there's a pretty distinct pattern emerging.
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Brejoin isn’t going to work any time remotely soon because I doubt the eu will want us. Any rejoin attempt will also likely have to deal with the uk getting no opt outs and carving out of special rules for it.

Most we’ll likely get is a Norway style customs thing we won’t be a member or shape policy
 
not holding my breath but i think eventually one or other of the political parties will break cover & start making noise about brejoining, because there's a pretty distinct pattern emerging.
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thats a poll taken at a time when no one is campaigning
as was posted just the other day the result swung dramatically in the finals days as precisely targeted video ads were launched en masse
 
thats a poll taken at a time when no one is campaigning
as was posted just the other day the result swung dramatically in the finals days as precisely targeted video ads were launched en masse
Yet another reason why the result of the referendum is as much a real indication of the informed wishes of the British population as a straw poll at closing time at my local would be.
 
The only thing the EU would need from the UK in order to rejoin is the certainty that there wouldn't be another referendum five years later. Although that might be difficult to give them. There's no reason for them to insist on things like keeping the Euro, though.
 
The only thing the EU would need from the UK in order to rejoin is the certainty that there wouldn't be another referendum five years later. Although that might be difficult to give them. There's no reason for them to insist on things like keeping the Euro, though.
Yes there is . Unless the prevailing thought in Brussels is 'what we really need is a massive dose of British exceptionalism' oh and that will go well with that side order of fuck democratic accountability
 
The only thing the EU would need from the UK in order to rejoin is the certainty that there wouldn't be another referendum five years later. Although that might be difficult to give them. There's no reason for them to insist on things like keeping the Euro, though.

think they would make the adoption of the euro compulsory to keep the bank with Europe and not allow England to act as the clearing house of Europe anymore
 
think they would make the adoption of the euro compulsory to keep the bank with Europe and not allow England to act as the clearing house of Europe anymore
yeah, and it's compulsory for Denmark and Sweden already. best not to hold your breath.
 
Not a day goes by without the EU thinking about the UK rejoining. A light still burns ,a heart still beats ,and hope is just around the corner.

Given the EU’s innate goodness and its wholesome generosity of spirit (not to mention the trifling matter of the UKs financial contribution) I’m sure they’d take a repentant UK back into its warm bosom.

Maybe in return, we could deport our working class to Rwanda and replace them with plucky entrepreneurial types from the mainland who will be prepared to do the jobs we won’t (like serving lattes to middle class remainers, cleaning their houses and driving them about when pissed) for £2 an hour.

Paradise!
 
yeah, and it's compulsory for Denmark and Sweden already. best not to hold your breath.

hmm they negotiated at a point of joining the eu

don't think even if the uk rejoin the eu

would just go here you veto back and no euro for you

it would have conditions

why even i don't think it would ever happen.. like the exit negationations

the uk would want to show strength whilst the eu would be like hmm
 
Given the EU’s innate goodness and its wholesome generosity of spirit (not to mention the trifling matter of the UKs financial contribution) I’m sure they’d take a repentant UK back into its warm bosom.

Maybe in return, we could deport our working class to Rwanda and replace them with plucky entrepreneurial types from the mainland who will be prepared to do the jobs we won’t (like serving lattes to middle class remainers, cleaning their houses and driving them about when pissed) for £2 an hour.

Paradise!

hmm trying to like the rwanda policy to the remain side of the argument

fucking distasteful

odd seeming as no one voted for brexit for racist reason

that the last 2 scheming home sec with leadership ambitions

have been playing to a specific audience
 
Given the EU’s innate goodness and its wholesome generosity of spirit (not to mention the trifling matter of the UKs financial contribution) I’m sure they’d take a repentant UK back into its warm bosom.

Maybe in return, we could deport our working class to Rwanda and replace them with plucky entrepreneurial types from the mainland who will be prepared to do the jobs we won’t (like serving lattes to middle class remainers, cleaning their houses and driving them about when pissed) for £2 an hour.

Paradise!
Do you really think that the impact so far of brexit has been mostly an inconvenience for posh people, and that workers would be even worse off on balance if we hadn’t left?
It’s not lattes anymore anyway.
 
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Do you really think that the impact so far of brexit has been mostly an inconvenience for posh people, and that workers would be even worse off on balance than if we hadn’t left?

you forget this image

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