A thank you to Brexiteers.
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DJWrongspeed
radio eros
I get extremely annoyed with MPs in the ERG who claim the role of the ECJ was somehow part of the referendum question? 
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
N.I. Brexit deal news conference due at 3.30pm, statement to the commons at 6.30pm.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
The European Court of Justice was part of Brexit, it now has no role in GB, only in NI, unless that changes today.I get extremely annoyed with MPs in the ERG who claim the role of the ECJ was somehow part of the referendum question?
Are you confusing the ECJ with the ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Does Sunak getting a successful protocol deal (if) win him the next GE?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I think the DJ's point was just that the referendum question didn't cover such details.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
No, most people don't care about NI & the protocol.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
No, it doesn't work like that. Even if you think he's done a good job , the last thing that will ever happen is voting for politicians based on merit.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
But the ECJ is part of the EU, so clearly was included in Brexit, OTOH the ECHR is not.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
He doesn’t give a fuck about the DUP
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I think he's awful. But I'm not the majority that keeps electing these monsters
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Most European countries that are not in the EU are subject to EU law. So, it would have been perfectly possible for the UK to do likewise. And it turns out that is what is happening, in respect of NI.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
I am bloody sure the ECJ only has power over EU member countries, but I am prepared to corrected if you can provide a link to prove otherwise.
IIRC there is another court that oversees countries in the single market, but not EU members.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Yes EFTA has its own court, but it implements EU law according to the ECJ. That sort of model couldn't really work for the UK, though, because it is not a member of a trading bloc.
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cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
That's the one - the EFTA Court, the EU have 27 members out of 44 European countries, leaving 17 non EU member states, only 4 of those are in the EFTA and subject to some EU laws, 13 are not, so not 'most European countries that are not in the EU are subject to EU law'' as you suggested.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Oh yes he does. He hasn't faced them down, won't face them down and continues to not understand them.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
No access to the PNC so ...
"European countries and especially the Schengen Area countries have far more relaxed rules surrounding entry for travellers with a criminal record. In general, visitors to the Schengen Area will not receive a European criminal conviction check at border control.
However, it is important to tell the truth if asked about a criminal record by a border official or on a form. Minor criminal offences should not prohibit entry to the Schengen Area. Travellers who have served 3 years in prison or more, or who have been convicted of illegal smuggling or drug offences with a 2-year prison term or more, are likely to be refused visa entry."
Raheem
Well-Known Member
OK, on a point of pedantry you win.
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
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DJWrongspeed
radio eros
The referendum question said nothing about the ECJ, it just asked leave or remain?
There were various flavours a leave vote could have indicated.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
So it looks like some kind of honesty box system between Wiltshire and Somerset mainland Great britain and Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland will not be in the exact same position as the rest of the UK.
Oh, and there will be a functioning NI government under the leadership of Michelle O'Neill of Sinn Fein...won't there?
Northern Ireland will not be in the exact same position as the rest of the UK.
Oh, and there will be a functioning NI government under the leadership of Michelle O'Neill of Sinn Fein...won't there?
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
But, as been discussed & agreed above the ECJ only ensures EU member states comply with EU laws, so if you leave the EU you are clearly no longer subject to the the ECJ, simple when you think about it.
* The exception being NI, of course, because of the complex issues on the island of Ireland.
gosub
~#
Well at least you're not wondering what Michael Higgens was up to today.
(Wales really do have to work on attack if he gets to read this ; ) )
BBC News - Northern Ireland: King meets EU chief as NI Brexit deal done
Northern Ireland: King meets EU chief as NI Brexit deal done
Buckingham Palace said the King's meeting with Ursula von der Leyen at Windsor was on government advice.
www.bbc.co.uk
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teqniq
DisMembered
Breakdown of the deal from the BBC:
Northern Ireland Brexit deal: At-a-glance
What does the new Windsor Framework agreement between the UK and the EU include?
www.bbc.com
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Wonder how long before it breaks downBreakdown of the deal from the BBC:
Northern Ireland Brexit deal: At-a-glance
What does the new Windsor Framework agreement between the UK and the EU include?www.bbc.com
PR1Berske
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Sky News just did that thing satirised by Chris Morris in "The Day Today", namely:
camera fixes on digging equipment
"Rishi will have to do SOME HEAVY LIFTING...."
camera fixes on road signs
"Questions on WHICH DIRECTION NORTHERN IRELAND SHALL TAKE"
camera fixes on digging equipment
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"Questions on WHICH DIRECTION NORTHERN IRELAND SHALL TAKE"
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