Barbary
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If the result had been the reverse, he was right to suggest it would be unfinished business. Do you question why Scotland continue to go on seeking independence? It will be unfinished business, all the time, until they succeed.
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If the result had been the reverse, he was right to suggest it would be unfinished business. Do you question why Scotland continue to go on seeking independence? It will be unfinished business, all the time, until they succeed.
Barbary
New Member
The UK vote determined what that "will of the people" would look like. If remainers had won the day, your argument would be valid. But remainers didn't win the vote. NI is not an independent state. That's life.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The uk's not an independent state, it's a rule taker not a rule maker. Even the time we left the eu was dictated by brussels
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
After the Wales devo ref in the 1990s - about 50% each way on a 50% turnout - there was a precedent for deciding important questions on fuck all margin
Barbary
New Member
You appear to be arguing against the remainer assertion that the UK didn't lose any sovereignty. Remainer arguments are mixed up, and contexts are mashed. You are a pretentious twerp.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Except I'm plainly not
Barbary
New Member
You plainly are. "the time we left the eu was dictated by brussels"
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We've already seen in the last few minutes what a dishonest shit you are, editing your 13955 after it'd been replied to. Now you're showing how utterly stupid you are as you ignore the post I was replying to, namely your bit about ni not being an independent state
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's fine; you can ignore the substantive point if you wish.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
You question in a post that quotes me has no relationship to what I posted.
I said the EU was democratic, maybe clunky and remote, but democratic nonetheless if by democracy you mean the ability of the people to choose and remove the EU leadership.
What do you think the EU structure actually is? A monarchy? parliamentary democracy? A dictatorship? A theocracy? A one party state?
Take a deep breath and try to formulate coherent posts.
Barbary
New Member
I'm saying - it isn't. A one party state would be getting close to the mark.
Barbary
New Member
I haven't ignored anything - the remain vote didn't take priority, and doesn't, even in those regions and constituencies that voted remain. That's way it goes.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
You are quite wrong I am afraid.
It might be what you believe, but it is not an actual fact.
Barbary
New Member
If you said that NI is not an independent state, I agree. It doesn't fall outside of the leave vote.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I know you'd agree with that bring as that's what you said. You've clearly fallen down the stupid tree and whacked your head on every branch in your descent
Barbary
New Member
What would you call it, when you cannot remove an institution and government? It is not open to a vote to change it. You can change faces, but not the central policy organisation. China love it.
Barbary
New Member
That just indicates your limitation for discussion.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You can't remove parliament, it's not open to a vote to remove it. You can change faces but not the institution.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not at all. It's your limitations everyone sees. You're unable to respond to even the simplest change in parameters. You think you know fucking everything when you really know fuck all
The occupied 6 counties will be free. Westminster is far more interfering than Brussels. And if it needs be, that we eventually need to move beyond the EU, we will.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
No, the context of your comment about the UK voting as a single polity was in response to someone referring the remain majority in NI as relevant background to the political stalemate resulting from DUP(ERG) determination that the part of the UK on the island of Ireland should be treated exactly the same as GB.
Barbary
New Member
Parliament is not the government. I'd ask you if you'd be happy to allow the Tories to be continually returned unchallenged.
Barbary
New Member
Remain are not the majority, in any region. That question was decided. Leading up to our leaving, remain expected all kinds of remain wishes to be met. They didn't win the right to choose Brexit policy, and still don't.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yes, I know you would. You talk about being outraged that you can't change eu institutions but you can't muster the same outrage about the same difficulty with uk institutions. Just give up now, you're doing the cause you affect to support no favours
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I don't think I've seen a stupider poster than poor Barbary
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Just the blame when it didn't work, sounds legit
Barbary
New Member
I actually do know more about Brexit than the majority of remainers. Remainers haven't thought about it, I have. You're arguing from a point of ignorance.
ska invita
back on the other side
Is there any way to plug this thread into the energy grid?
Barbary
New Member
It's simple. The Labour party get to voice an opposing ideology, if they have one, but they don't get to be the government. Same as remainers. They get to shout, but don't hold the position of having had their vote call the shots.
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