Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
now see if you can understand something else before bigging yourself up about your levels of comprehension
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A thank you to Brexiteers.
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bimble
floofy
How many years is it going to take before people like Jeremy hunt feel its safe for them and their stupid political party to admit that brexit has been a fucking disaster. I'm sick of it, the lying and the damage, its no longer hypothetical its just a fact, and he goes on tv to talk about the 'black hole in the country's finances', sits in front of a chart that shows we are the only G7 country worse off now than before the pandemic and says he reckons we just haven't unleashed the benefits yet.
How much longer are they just going to lie about it like its a new state religion, even the ones like him who never wanted the bloody thing in the first place.
How much longer are they just going to lie about it like its a new state religion, even the ones like him who never wanted the bloody thing in the first place.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the answer is, sadly, the number of years it'll take before the country answers john lydon's question at winterland, ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
It's from a very prominent brexiteer.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
They won't ever admit that principally because, for the interests that they represent, it hasn't been a disaster.
bimble
floofy
For what interests has it been beneficial so far ? Apart from the tory party itself just as a political party, it may have helped them for a time, but who else? (real question, genuinely don't know).
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Those interests that regarded the bureaucracy and regulation of the supra state as a brake on their returns/accumulation. Global, financialised capital is more than happy to see polities free to accelerate supply side "reforms" that enable populations to be exploited more efficiently.
bimble
floofy
yeah but that hasnt happened yet has it, its just an idea, so far they are just paying more to fly their fruit pickers over from Nepal and stuff, and paying more to export and import. And this sort of thing, idk if global capital cares where it’s traded but the big financial interests of uk are not rejoicing .
Paris overtakes London as Europe's most valuable stock market
London has lost its position as Europe’s most valuable stock market, as Britain’s economic downturn continues to weigh on listed UK companies.
www.investmentweek.co.uk
I really think it’s just become a taboo now for all politicians, the massive elephant in the crumbling room. It’s just impossible for them to say a bad word about brexit cos they’ve all bought the idea that it was the Will Of The People.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Financialised globalised capital not fruit farmers.yeah but that hasnt happened yet has it, its just an idea, so far they are just paying more to fly their fruit pickers over from Nepal and stuff, and paying more to export and import. And this sort of thing, idk if global capital cares where it’s traded but the big financial interests of uk are not rejoicing .
Paris overtakes London as Europe's most valuable stock market
London has lost its position as Europe’s most valuable stock market, as Britain’s economic downturn continues to weigh on listed UK companies.
I really think it’s just become a taboo now for all politicians, the massive elephant in the crumbling room.
bimble
floofy
You’re saying brexit has been good for profits ? How though.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
If it had the potential to harm them it wouldn't have happened.
bimble
floofy
But everyone who isn't lying does seem to agree that brexit has led to economic contracation, predictions of a longer and worse recession than if we hadn't brexited are not partisan or controversial.
obr.uk
If somebody is getting rich from brexit I just want to know who, cos that would count as a benefit, maybe, even if it's just for that person. Not even the hoover man is happy is he, and there's loads of whining from people like this:
www.theguardian.com
Brexit analysis - Office for Budget Responsibility
Since the announcement of the EU referendum we have been producing analysis and writing about the potential effects of Brexit on the economy and public finances. We have compiled our assumptions, judgements and analysis on this page.
obr.uk
If somebody is getting rich from brexit I just want to know who, cos that would count as a benefit, maybe, even if it's just for that person. Not even the hoover man is happy is he, and there's loads of whining from people like this:
‘Not the Brexit I wanted’: Next boss calls for more foreign workers in UK
Leave backer Lord Wolfson says UK must let in much-needed overseas workers to plug chronic labour shortages
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
A slightly less flippant answer might be that the interests served by the right party of capital do not rely on the economy of the UK to make their returns/accumulation, so some deregualtion in one polity to free up/accelarate neoliberal reforms is fine by them. Just a useful little test case of how far things can be taken without the pesky drag of the supra state.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The von der Leyen Brigade.
bimble
floofy
Even my next door neighbour is moaning about brexit now every time I have the misfortune of seeing him, and he was more than happy to vote for it.
I think the politicians are just lagging way behind, or else they think that the country is full of people who are too embarrassed to admit that brexit is basically a Boaty mcBoatface.
They think their job depends on politely covering up that embarrassment until it stops hurting.
I think the politicians are just lagging way behind, or else they think that the country is full of people who are too embarrassed to admit that brexit is basically a Boaty mcBoatface.
They think their job depends on politely covering up that embarrassment until it stops hurting.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Second home owners for rejoin
They'll all be long gone by the time it's no longer a massive drag on the public finances. As will most of the welfare state.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Until Labour are in power and can safely be blamed
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Is your neighbour embarrassed?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
as well as lassaiz faire capitalistsI do have a sneaking regard for libertarian communists though....
bimble
floofy
I think he's coming close to it, not quite there maybe but nearly. It is very very hard to admit you did a foolish thing. I said to him the other day that at some point I think it’ll be reversed, when enough people are ready to say it was a mistake, and he just sort of stood there.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Give it a rest ya daft twat
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Thought of any brexit benefits yet?
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