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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Anyway, surely we can agree that today is a historic day for planet remain to celebrate? Confirmed remain supporters now head up all of the establishment parties. A long overdue return to the established order with experts calling the shots.

Surely, together, they can save us from the Brexshit inflicted upon us by the unwashed sheeple?

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True. But to do so would mean the government owned railway competing on the basis of a race to to the bottom of cost savings, attacking terms and conditions, lowering pay etc. Surely you can see why a trade union would be opposed to that?
You're being disingenuous. Why would a fully nationalised railway be any different? Certainly the days of British Rail suggest that they wouldn't be, and SNCF strikes haven't changed a whit since the rules changed in France.
 
Well this is embarrassing for those Brexit fans

A Kent brewery chosen to help champion export opportunities for the government after Brexit has revealed that burdensome customs checks and paperwork have left it with just one remaining customer in the EU.

The Old Dairy Brewery in Kent – a Department for International Trade export champion for the south-east – appeared in a government video last year promoting the potential to boost Brexit export sales.


However its exports of bottled and keg Kent ale to countries including Italy, Germany and Sweden have slumped since the UK left the EU because of the onerous paperwork.

The brewery now has just one EU customer, a Berlin pub operator who travels to England by van to pick up the beer. The value of the Kent brewery’s annual beer exports have fallen from £600,000 to £2,000.

 
You're being disingenuous. Why would a fully nationalised railway be any different?.
Well, they wouldn't be wasting so much money on exec golden handshakes, endless rebranding and endless cash and asset-sucking franchises, for starters.
 
I do not believe that there are any credible sources that lend credence to any suggestion that the best way to facilitate the re-nationalisation of key sections of the national economy was best achieved by remining in the neo-liberal EU.
I asked you for credible sources. You have a position, that exiting the EU was the right thing to do. So what source convinced you that, wrt to nationalisation specifically, would only be possible if we left.
 
Well, they wouldn't be wasting so much money on exec golden handshakes, endless rebranding and endless cash and asset-sucking franchises, for starters.
You missed the OP, which was about a government owned railway competing in an "open" market, the way it's done in France.
Though I would point out that, despite being 100% government owned, SNCF still has stupidly paid executives, endless rebranding, and a load of franchises that mostly make money.
 
Anyway, surely we can agree that today is a historic day for planet remain to celebrate? Confirmed remain supporters now head up all of the establishment parties. A long overdue return to the established order with experts calling the shots.

Surely, together, they can save us from the Brexshit inflicted upon us by the unwashed sheeple?

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Why are you trying to smear people that support remaining? This is idiotic
 
Surely any rail contract could specify minimum pay and conditions for the workforce to even up the 'competition'.
 
You missed the OP, which was about a government owned railway competing in an "open" market, the way it's done in France.
Though I would point out that, despite being 100% government owned, SNCF still has stupidly paid executives, endless rebranding, and a load of franchises that mostly make money.
Want to compare fares with the UK?
 
Want to compare fares with the UK?
My post was very much in favour of an SNCF model. Where Smokeandsteam and I disagreed is that he feels a fully nationalised railway - eg a department for Rail - would be less wasteful than an SNCF style arrangement. I vehemently disagree, given British Rail's glorious past. It's all about whether EU rules allow for a sufficiently nationalised railway, and some feel that the French model doesn't measure up.

No one, at any time, has suggested that the current mess in the UK is a good model. You're arguing with phantoms.
 
I vehemently disagree, given British Rail's glorious past.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but British Rail was actually a reasonably efficient railway, hampered by underfunding and poor decisions.


 
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but British Rail was actually a reasonably efficient railway, hampered by underfunding and poor decisions.


Exactly! It was suggested that a private, but government-owned railway would be a race to the bottom - but that's exactly what British Rail was. Much like TfL, they performed seeming miracles on limited funds, but they were constantly under spending pressure.
 
Man’s a genius, brexit flavoured gin in red white and blue, only available from farage’s own website hurry while stocks last etc.
 
Man’s a genius, brexit flavoured gin in red white and blue, only available from farage’s own website hurry while stocks last etc.

There's some interesting tittle tattle behind this from a Twitter account
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@BryceElder

I'll summarise their tweets for posters are not on Twitter

The gin is made by a company called Cornish Rock who by chance were already making the same gin, in the same colours in the same bottles before our Nige threw his dosh in .



The company are owned by Angie and George Malde who previously were racehorse owners who had several winners




and before that ran a clothing business subject to conviction and fines

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The back of the bottle on the advert says "Baxter Laois Limited" (called "LF Consultancy Services" until Feb 2022). It's a micro company wholly owned by Farage's French long-term girlfriend Laure Ferrari.)
 
Here you go friends of the Brexit; Furry Frank's clan bigging up the High Priest of the sacred will-o-the-people! :D

 
The back of the bottle on the advert says "Baxter Laois Limited"
an anagram of Male Brexit Idealist...coincidence?
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And he's off! I put it here as there's not really anywhere else suitable, fucking loon:


Good luck Eire, bailing out Italy,Greece, Portugal et al (again). Commission will most likely be as proactive as they were on the covid vaccine malarkey

Could go either way I think, next debacle most likely lead to an exit mech for the EUro or tax harmonizing in return for Germany holding sway on foreign policy.
 
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Good luck Eire, bailing out Italy,Greece, Portugal et al (again). Commission will most likely be as proactive as they were on the covid vaccine malarkey

Could go either way I think, next debacle most likely lead to an exit mech for the EUro or tax harmonizing in return for Germany holding sway on foreign policy.
What is it within the EU that makes their southern states such a target for mockery ?
 
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