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A thank you to Brexiteers.

The39thStep said:
I'm not all all sure why you edited your original post to try and get a dig in. No matter let me reassure you I am far from the more working class than you type. as those who are still left on the boards would bear out. I am a pro working class militant and anti fascist but I've never hidden my career, what I ended up doing, how I got there and I'd probably bore you senseless about my bourgeois tastes if we met.
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I edit for spelling and grammar seeming as I'm on a phone and not at a desk as I'm not at home

and the dig just came in cause you spending all morning waffling in and throwing dig as the guardian readers like you are a cut above anyone else posting on the thread, but feel free to get defensive
 
Ax^ said:
I edit for spelling and grammar seeming as I'm on a phone and not at a desk as I'm not at home

and the dig just came in cause you spending all morning waffling in and throwing dig as the guardian readers like you are a cut above anyone else posting on the thread, but feel free to get defensive
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Come on be honest . You edited to add a last sentence about me not to correct spelling and grammar .

We were discussing an article in the Guardian btw . Anyway sorry you feel this way .
 
The39thStep said:
what may have been possible.
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Well, yes, in a parallel and quite different universe I agree brexit could have been a good idea, but we don’t live there and that was blindingly obvious back in 2016 as well.
All sorts of things that are thoroughly shit could have been good in another parallel universe, and probably seemed a good idea to a lot of people at the time, for instance Christianity or Facebook, but here we are stuck in this singular stupid universe and those things are not good just because you can imagine how they might once upon a time have turned out nicely.
 
bimble said:
Well, yes, in a parallel and quite different universe I agree brexit could have been a good idea, but we don’t live there and that was blindingly obvious back in 2016 as well.
All sorts of things that are thoroughly shit could have been good in another parallel universe, and probably seemed a good idea to a lot of people at the time, for instance Christianity or Facebook, but here we are stuck in this singular stupid universe and those things are not good just because you can imagine how they might once upon a time have turned out nicely.
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You don't sound your normal chipper self Bimble, whats up ?
 
The39thStep said:
I am sure that you will acknowledge that there is a difference, which the more sensible posters on here have discussed , between the downsides of Johnsons Brexit and what may have been possible.

I'm more in the Mélenchon camp ( I know, the bloody French eh?) although I suspect that if he was English and running the same campaign in the UK he would have also stirred the hornet's nest of FPBEs on here.
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It’s a bit of an obvious truism to say that there’s a difference between the Tory Brexit and what may have been possible.

Not sure where that takes discussion tbh?
 
brogdale said:
It’s a bit of an obvious truism to say that there’s a difference between the Tory Brexit and what may have been possible.

Not sure where that takes discussion tbh?
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This isn’t a thread for taking discussion in any direction , as I suspect you probably know . A lot of posters on here would be very upset if that was the case and their routine was disturbed .
 
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brogdale said:
It’s a bit of an obvious truism to say that there’s a difference between the Tory Brexit and what may have been possible.

Not sure where that takes discussion tbh?
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Its just him saying that he voted for a different brexit, a really cool one that goes to a different school, not this crappy one that we are living in. If he voted from Portugal idk.
 
The39thStep said:
Good for you .
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It is. I love it. Btw my favourite weird little plant selling man told me today that he’s packing up shop because it doesn’t work anymore with the cost of importing stuff from Europe, so he’s shutting down in a month or two, the place is going to be sold to a developer for flats. Which is shit, he has a grey parrot who lives in the shed and doesn’t talk but whistles many tunes. I’ll miss them a lot,
 
bimble said:
Its just him saying that he voted for a different brexit, a really cool one that goes to a different school, not this crappy one that we are living in. If he voted from Portugal idk.
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‘Him’? Sort of cats whiskers thing that Bimble . Wouldn’t dream of referring to you like that . Actually I was in the U.K. at the time .
 
People throw the word ‘Brexit’ around without explaining what it means.
So far it does not mean the whole of the UK leaving the whole of the EU as voted for.
 
If it’s any assistance bimble my position very clearly is that on one hand we had the Tory Brexit hardliners , on the other hand the absolutist remainers .These were unfortunately the two main runners . The latter mainly in the Labour Party but also in the Lib Dem’s .

Both the hardliners and absolutists played a game of chicken which most normal people , either leave or remain , didn’t want to get dragged into. The absolutionists , who were always bound to lose, absolutely hamstrung Labour making them look incoherent. The absolutists eventually brought down Corbyn and the hardliners brought down May . The price we pay is a Johnson led Brexit , Starmer mugging off his remain acolytes leaving a rump of nutty obsessed FBPE types who no doubt when they die will pass on miniature shrines of the EU to their nearest and dearest .

All the people who spoke about reforming the EU or who had criticisms or reservations about it have seemingly disappeared and the absolutionists deny they ever existed .

I hate to say this but when I was in the U.K. Brexit never came up once in any conversation I had apart from a cab driver asking me if it was true that at border control going on holiday they checked if you had the equivalent of 8 euros a day.
 
The39thStep said:
Thanks . Certainly more plausible than sleaterkinneys post. I think Le Pens strategy was to implement her manifesto , the legislation that would ‘provoke’ the EU , show the electorate it that national sovereignty was impossible and take it from there .
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Had brexit been even a slight success though, her and the other racists would have been laughing, now they have to think about something else.
 
The39thStep said:
This isn’t a thread for taking discussion in any direction , as I suspect you probably know . A lot of posters on here would be very upset if that was the case and their routine was disturbed .
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OK, fair point...I did start a few threads intended to offer scope for Brexit related discussion but, as is the Darwinian nature of forum dynamics, this one won out. That said, its title shouldn't preclude discussion and I'm always happy to use it to call out the deluded aspects of both camps that chose to engage with the Tory referendum on varieties of neoliberalism.
 
bimble said:
It is. I love it. Btw my favourite weird little plant selling man told me today that he’s packing up shop because it doesn’t work anymore with the cost of importing stuff from Europe, so he’s shutting down in a month or two, the place is going to be sold to a developer for flats. Which is shit, he has a grey parrot who lives in the shed and doesn’t talk but whistles many tunes. I’ll miss them a lot,
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How’s he taking his parrot back ?
 
Those people who spoke about reforming the EU from within - it's an absolute disgrace that they aren't now stepping up. I can't see what's stopping them.
 
teuchter said:
Those people who spoke about reforming the EU from within - it's an absolute disgrace that they aren't now stepping up. I can't see what's stopping them.
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Exhaustion?

Perhaps all the gloating, haha, 'move to the EU then', 'enemies of the people', 'citizens of nowhere' stuff had the effect of making those it was aimed at think 'well, OK, fuck you - this is all yours, so you get on with it'. People heard, and listened, reflected, and have acted accordingly.

Nobody has so much energy that even more can be expended in helping Brexiters to navigate the reality of their victory.
 
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