A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Ax^]

Actually she has changed tack because the fortress ethno EU project her and other far right elements want is now thought to be more achievable in the EU than outside .

 

[Tanya1982]

I read yesterday that British pawnbrokers are absolutely booming. It wasn't one of the promised dividends, but it could prove to be that elusive Brexit benefit that's been MIA all these years.

 

[Raheem]

Actually she has changed tack because the fortress ethno EU project her and other far right elements want is now thought to be more achievable in the EU than outside .

That's a good one.

 

[The39thStep]

That's a good one.

Thanks . Certainly more plausible than sleaterkinneys post. I think Le Pens strategy was to implement her manifesto , the legislation that would ‘provoke’ the EU , show the electorate it that national sovereignty was impossible and take it from there .

 

[The39thStep]

Control, eh?

Dunno about that but applied for a biometric card during the first lockdown and still haven’t had an appointment just the barcoded acknowledgment of application . I’ve used this to fly to England and back and go to Spain and never had any trouble and never seen anyone else have any either.
Obviously if the Guardian’s full time Brexit correspondent is on the case the Portuguese govt won’t spare the horses in getting it fixed .

 

[brogdale]

Dunno about that but applied for a biometric card during the first lockdown and still haven’t had an appointment just the barcoded acknowledgment of application . I’ve used this to fly to England and back and go to Spain and never had any trouble and never seen anyone else have any either.
Obviously if the Guardian’s full time Brexit correspondent is on the case the Portuguese govt won’t spare the horses in getting it fixed .

Surely the UK government urging member states to fully implement the withdrawal agreement will solve the issue, eh?

 

[The39thStep]

Surely the UK government urging member states to fully implement the withdrawal agreement will solve the issue, eh?

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In the same way as the Brazilian govt , Cape Verde , Ukrainian, Chinese govt and govts of other residents from outside the EU will have done. about protecting the rights of their citizens who are all affected by the inefficient rollout.

 

[brogdale]

In the same way as the Brazilian govt , Cape Verde , Ukrainian, Chinese govt and govts of other residents from outside the EU will have done. about protecting the rights of their citizens who are all affected by the inefficient rollout.

In the same way that they've agreed, signed and threatened to renege on a withdrawal from?

 

[The39thStep]

In the same way that they've agreed, signed and threatened to renege on a withdrawal from?

It might not be to the liking of some posters on here but the Portuguese government hasn't threatened to renege.

 

[Cerv]

I think brogdale meant that the UK government by "they" in that post.

who are threatening to renege on it, specifically regarding the NI arrangements.

 

[bimble]

Surely the UK government urging member states to fully implement the withdrawal agreement will solve the issue, eh?

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This is pretty funny in a hollow laugh sort of way. It’s like they think a few select parts of the agreement we signed should be adhered to properly but not the rest of it, the inconvenient bits should be politely ignored else it’s a case of uppity spiteful foreigners.

 

[The39thStep]

I think brogdale meant that the UK government by "they" in that post.

who are threatening to renege on it, specifically regarding the NI arrangements.

Really?

 

[The39thStep]

of course this not being a problem for Brits before the vote has nothing to do with brexit and it's just the remainers being petty

I think the problem mainly is excitable posters getting carried away by Guardian headlines and hoping that Brits would somehow be punished for Brexit.

It is with regret, as I didn't want to pop your balloon and for you to put the fizzy cider away, that I have to inform you that before Brexit the certificate of residence in Portugal was mandatory. Along with a fiscal number this gives you access to their NHS and other services and allows you to pay tax etc.

The biometric change is to comply with an EU rollout to prevent fraud.

 

[Ax^]

hmm during the time in the EU you had one that lat five years


now outside the EU, ex pat's would need to have one issues for the first year and then have renewed it every 2 year to the five year limit has been reached before you can get the permanent

so don't want to spill your sagres but it's still more hassle that before brexit

 

[bimble]

I do love it that the person who is probably our most enthusiastic Brexiter happens to live in the eu.

 

[The39thStep]

hmm during the time in the EU you had one that lat five years


now outside the EU, ex pat's would need to have one issues for the first year and then have renewed it every 2 year to the five year limit has been reached before you can get the permanent

so don't want to spill your sagres but it's still more hassle that before brexit

Again , and I’m drinking white port and tonic , if you google quicker , faster and harder you will find that the biometric card renewal is done on line after the first initial appointment whereas before it was all paper and appointments . The new ones will also come with health number / fiscal / social security .

This affects all foreigners .


This whole story is bigger amongst the Guardian reading remain fbpe types in the U.K. than it actually is for people living here but I thank you for your concern . Sincerely .

 

[Pickman's model]

Again , and I’m drinking white port and tonic , if you google quicker , faster and harder you will find that the biometric card renewal is done on line after the first initial appointment whereas before it was all paper and appointments . The new ones will also come with health number / fiscal / social security .

This affects all foreigners .


This whole story is bigger amongst the Guardian reading remain fbpe types in the U.K. than it actually is for people living here but I thank you for your concern . Sincerely .

Fbpe is fuck Britain prefer Europe, isn't it

 

[Ax^]

Again , and I’m drinking white port and tonic , if you google quicker , faster and harder you will find that the biometric card renewal is done on line after the first initial appointment whereas before it was all paper and appointments . The new ones will also come with health number / fiscal / social security .

This affects all foreigners .


This whole story is bigger amongst the Guardian reading remain fbpe types in the U.K. than it actually is for people living here but I thank you for your concern . Sincerely .

oh fuck off with the guardian shite

that was the rules regarding EU members that British had before brexit

 

[The39thStep]

oh fuck off with the guardian shite

that was the rules regarding EU members that British had before brexit

I've noticed over our years of correspondence, some up/some down, that you have a tendency to resort to swearing when the going gets tough. It's not necessary.

 

[Ax^]

I'm from the north side of Dublin ya daft twat

not swearing is the exception, and I noticed that the tend to start trolling about the guardian when you have talked yourself into a corner and are talking ballocks


ex pat living in Portugal trying to so the " I'm more working class" that you troupe. cop on to yourself..

 

[The39thStep]

I do love it that the person who is probably our most enthusiastic Brexiter happens to live in the eu.

Wait till you meet the Portuguese Communist Party or Left Bloc

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm from the north side of Dublin ya daft twat

not swearing is the exception, and I noticed that the tend to start trolling about the guardian when you have talked yourself into a corner and are talking ballocks


ex pat living in Portugal trying to so the " I'm more working class" that you troupe. cop on to yourself..

What, drumcondra or points further north?

 

[brogdale]

I think brogdale meant that the UK government by "they" in that post.

who are threatening to renege on it, specifically regarding the NI arrangements.

The39thStep knew that.

 

[Ax^]

What, drumcondra or points further north?

close more or less next door, currently posting from my aunties garden in Finglas west

 

[The39thStep]

I'm from the north side of Dublin ya daft twat

not swearing is the exception, and I noticed that the tend to start trolling about the guardian when you have talked yourself into a corner and are talking ballocks


ex pat living in Portugal trying to so the " I'm more working class" that your troupe. cop on to yourself..

I'm not all all sure why you edited your original post to try and get a dig in. No matter let me reassure you I am far from the more working class than you type. as those who are still left on the boards would bear out. I am a pro working class militant and anti fascist but I've never hidden my career, what I ended up doing, how I got there and I'd probably bore you senseless about my bourgeois tastes if we met.

 

[The39thStep]

Fbpe is fuck Britain prefer Europe, isn't it

Normally with a Ukraine flag next to it for some reason.

 

[brogdale]

I do love it that the person who is probably our most enthusiastic Brexiter happens to live in the eu.

Well holding particular views regarding the supra state are not necessarily geographically or nationally determined; it's perfectly reasonable for EU member state residents to take a view on Brexit. That said, views expressed from beyond our independent polity will obviously be open to criticism that they are formed in a context insulated from the most evident downsides of the process.

 

[teuchter]

Actually she has changed tack because the fortress ethno EU project her and other far right elements want is now thought to be more achievable in the EU than outside .

Can you explain this a little more?

For example, if France was outside of the EU why would she want to achieve an ethno-fortress EU?

And why is it more easy for France to become an ethno-Fortress inside the EU than outside?

 

[The39thStep]

Well holding particular views regarding the supra state are not necessarily geographically or nationally determined; it's perfectly reasonable for EU member state residents to take a view on Brexit. That said, views expressed from beyond our independent polity will obviously be open to criticism that they are formed in a context insulated from the most evident downsides of the process.

I am sure that you will acknowledge that there is a difference, which the more sensible posters on here have discussed , between the downsides of Johnsons Brexit and what may have been possible.

I'm more in the Mélenchon camp ( I know, the bloody French eh?) although I suspect that if he was English and running the same campaign in the UK he would have also stirred the hornet's nest of FPBEs on here.

 

[The39thStep]

Can you explain this a little more?

For example, if France was outside of the EU why would she want to achieve an ethno-fortress EU?

And why is it more easy for France to become an ethno-Fortress inside the EU than outside?

Let me come back to you on that. My visitors have returned with a load of food .