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A thank you to Brexiteers.

We live near Dover and the traffic has to be seen to be believed. We went to Lenham for a friend's birthday last night and the queues of lorries on the motorway were miles long. Nothing new there really (at least since That Which Shall Not Be Named happened) but also absolute gridlock on loads of secondary roads all around with cars trying to get into the tunnel or Dover itself. Luckily we could avoid most of it, had to go up on the verge to get round some, but people were outside their cars and looked like they hadn't moved for hours.

Came back at 11 (god bless Waze for taking us down country roads to avoid it) and they were all still there. Looked like they'd be there all night tbh.
Any local intel on the Wootton, Densole, Hawkinge road? I'm due to go down to Hawkinge tomorrow and wondered how that road down from the A2 was faring?
 
Any local intel on the Wootton, Densole, Hawkinge road? I'm due to go down to Hawkinge tomorrow and wondered how that road down from the A2 was faring?
Dunno tbf. We came back through Peen and Sellindge but it was all literally pitch black country roads with no signs. Just trusted the Waze. Stick a journey into it, see what it says. It was pretty impressive, considering how many roads are closed. At one point we came up to a gridlocked roundabout but we could use the only unblocked lane to get round it and out. Otherwise I think we'd still be there.

It is an absolute pain tbh. Makes getting anywhere into a complete ballache.
 
It's all very well moaning about the French border force but if you look at the queues at Heathrow we're not exactly great at it either ?

I was on the German - Swiss border recently and didn't realise because of Schengen you can just flip across no problem. I cycled across a bridge and thought, hang on , do I need to get my passport out?
 
Are any Brexiteers still posting about the benefits on this thread? How it’ll free us from the threat of the Neo-liberal European project. Rather than the reality that the whole thing was an asset grab by international capital.
 
Are any Brexiteers still posting about the benefits on this thread? How it’ll free us from the threat of the Neo-liberal European project. Rather than the reality that the whole thing was an asset grab by international capital.

We’re still here. But the thread is now little more than postings from ‘hilarious’ FBPE Twitter so there isn’t anything from planet remain to actually engage with. It’s akin to an 80’s band constantly touring and playing their one hit to an increasingly smaller audience

Interested in your final point, which as I understand, posits that ‘international capital’ simultaneously campaigned for remain whilst secretly planning ‘an asset grab’. Sounds like you’ve stumbled upon a conspiracy there…
 
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We’re still here. But the thread is now little more than postings from ‘hilarious’ FBPE Twitter so there isn’t anything from planet remain to actually engage with. It’s akin to an 80’s band constantly touring and playing their one hit to an increasingly smaller audience

Interested in your final point, which as I understand, posits that ‘international capital’ simultaneously campaigned for remain whilst secretly planning ‘an asset grab’. Sounds like you’ve stumbled upon a conspiracy there…
I have termed FBPE Twitter the IRA (Internet Remain Army)
 
We’re still here. But the thread is now little more than postings from ‘hilarious’ FBPE Twitter so there isn’t anything from planet remain to actually engage with. It’s akin to an 80’s band constantly touring and playing their one hit to an increasingly smaller audience

Interested in your final point, which as I understand, posits that ‘international capital’ simultaneously campaigned for remain whilst secretly planning ‘an asset grab’. Sounds like you’ve stumbled upon a conspiracy there…
Capital ("international" or otherwise) was less engaged in in the 2016 referendum that had been the case in 1975 when many businesses communicated directly with their workforces to influence the 'stay' vote. With the obvious high-profile exceptions of Martin, Dyson et al and the Collective bodies of UK business, Capital's engagement with the referendum was pretty muted. I suspect some of that derives from the penetration of genuinely international capital in the UK economy; the outcome of one nation's membership of one regional market didn't really matter that much to global, neoliberal capital. They simply adjusted their business models and maybe re-located some activities to other states still within the single market without noticeable impacts on their returns.
 
I have termed FBPE Twitter the IRA (Internet Remain Army)

They more resemble dads army. A dwindling and ageing group whose nostalgia for the 'good old days' - when the UK was a happy prosperous place, safe in the bosom of a failing and unelected neo-liberal economic construct - becomes more unreliable every time they tell their story. Give it a moment and they'll be claiming that you could leave your back door open and nobody would rob you when we were in the EU.
 
The mistake is always to assume international capital is a monolith - which is how you end up with lunatic conspiracy theories about The Jews.

Capital is made up of a variety of capitalists out for themselves, mostly it aligns in the pursuit of profit but there were clearly a substantial number of influential capitalists who for various reasons wanted to make more money pursuing Brexit and have done so quite well. Plenty of others stood quietly by and while disproving of it saw no point spending money stopping it, partly because they didn't think it would happen.
 
Are any Brexiteers still posting about the benefits on this thread? How it’ll free us from the threat of the Neo-liberal European project. Rather than the reality that the whole thing was an asset grab by international capital.

They have seemingly retreated to a fantasy world where the overwhelming success of the Brexit project is being questioned only by a dwindling, out-of-touch minority.
 
i just spent a little while reading about the connection between our leaving the EU and our current (not new just worse than before) NHS staffing crisis.
There were of course ways that a brexit could probably have been done without leading to an even more dangerously understaffed health service with 50,000 vacancies but those are not the brexit we are enjoying.
 
The people who voted leave because they don't like foreigners coming over here, they will probably never see this graph, but it does kind of kill the whole argument about how UK workers wages are going to get better now that Poles and Lithuanians cant take our jobs doesnt it.

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I was on the German - Swiss border recently and didn't realise because of Schengen you can just flip across no problem. I cycled across a bridge and thought, hang on , do I need to get my passport out?


And Switzerland is not in the EU.

There is no reason why they haven't sorted something out yet. They have done so in Portugal. Hopefully once cunthead Johnson fucks off some of the animosity felt towards the UK by various political leaders in the EU may subside and we can get back to being friendly neighbours.
 
We’re still here. But the thread is now little more than postings from ‘hilarious’ FBPE Twitter so there isn’t anything from planet remain to actually engage with. It’s akin to an 80’s band constantly touring and playing their one hit to an increasingly smaller audience

Interested in your final point, which as I understand, posits that ‘international capital’ simultaneously campaigned for remain whilst secretly planning ‘an asset grab’. Sounds like you’ve stumbled upon a conspiracy there…
Might be a cunning plot by the international companies that own 70% of our railway routes
 
Or the ones who own the energy companies? I hope all of those who voted Brexshit will be happy when they get their gas bills. They deserve it etc.
I'm especially looking forward to the crazy memes mocking people freezing to death this winter because they can't afford to heat their homes.

Most will probably be Brexit voters, so it serves them right, just like it does all those stuck in queues at Dover at the weekend.
 
I'm especially looking forward to the crazy memes mocking people freezing to death this winter because they can't afford to heat their homes.

Most will probably be Brexit voters, so it serves them right, just like it does all those stuck in queues at Dover at the weekend.

Yes, we can add them to the list of shame: the delight at job losses in northern towns and cities, the suggestion that P&O workers had nobody else to blame but themselves because they were RMT members, condemnation of the inflationary effects created by striking food distribution workers, British people who dare to live abroad but rejected the EU , British people who dare to go on holiday but don't obsessively hanker for racist EU closed borders etc

In all cases the class contempt and the reactionary consequences of the praxis are palpable.
 
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I'm especially looking forward to the crazy memes mocking people freezing to death this winter because they can't afford to heat their homes.

Most will probably be Brexit voters, so it serves them right, just like it does all those stuck in queues at Dover at the weekend.
And the rest will probably be Remoaners, so they deserve it too :thumbs:
 
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