A thank you to Brexiteers.

[The39thStep]

Portugal Now Applies Same Border Rules to UK Travellers as to EU Citizens to Reduce Airport Queues

Portugal has become the first European Union Member State to treat travellers from the UK the same as those from the EU at its borders. The Portuguese authorities announced last week that the Foreigners and Borders Service started operating four new generation e-gates at Lisbon Airport in order...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

 

[Yossarian]

Portugal Now Applies Same Border Rules to UK Travellers as to EU Citizens to Reduce Airport Queues

Portugal has become the first European Union Member State to treat travellers from the UK the same as those from the EU at its borders. The Portuguese authorities announced last week that the Foreigners and Borders Service started operating four new generation e-gates at Lisbon Airport in order...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

"Portugal generously exempts Britons from the consequences of their nation's bad choices."

 

[2hats]

Portugal Now Applies Same Border Rules to UK Travellers as to EU Citizens to Reduce Airport Queues

Portugal has become the first European Union Member State to treat travellers from the UK the same as those from the EU at its borders. The Portuguese authorities announced last week that the Foreigners and Borders Service started operating four new generation e-gates at Lisbon Airport in order...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Other EU countries have been directing UK passport holders to use their EU/EEA/CH e-gates for months now.

 

[Spymaster]

"Portugal generously exempts Britons from the consequences of their nation's bad choices understands that creating pointless border queues is in nobody's best interests"

Sorted.

 

[The39thStep]

Other EU countries have been directing UK passport holders to use their EU/EEA/CH e-gates for months now.

Good for them . At Faro they’ve always just let everyone through what ever manual gates are open but the e-gates have frequently been out of service .

 

[T & P]

I think the fairest and best solution all round would be to wave Brits who voted Remain through the EU gates, while letting Brexit voters fester in the same queue as other non-EU citizens.

 

[The39thStep]

I think the fairest and best solution all round would be to wave Brits who voted Remain through the EU gates, while letting Brexit voters fester in the same queue as other non-EU citizens.

Not so fast. Surely there should be a question on the Irish border to filter out those who may have voted Remain but who did not consider any of the implications of the border issue when they voted?

 

[Chilli.s]

I think the fairest and best solution all round would be to wave Brits who voted Remain through the EU gates, while letting Brexit voters fester in the same queue as other non-EU citizens.

harsh but fair

 

[Ax^]

Sorted.

if only the english could understand that before voting to leave

 

[MrSki]

How long will it take for any benefits from trade deals to show?

I am starting to doubt it will be in my lifetime.

 

[teuchter]

Good for them .

I'd have thought that those who wanted to leave the EU due to its racist border policies would be condemning these racist border policies now being implemented by various member nations.

 

[The39thStep]

I'd have thought that those who wanted to leave the EU due to its racist border policies would be condemning these racist border policies now being implemented by various member nations.

Would you really?

 

[Maggot]

Brexit: Tonnes of beetroot left to rot as EU firms look elsewhere

Staffordshire farmer Will Woodhall says the lack of demand in Europe will cost him up to £90,000.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The39thStep]

He made a very good point

Despite all that, Woodhall, who voted to remain in 2016, is remarkably upbeat about the country’s potential long-term prospects outside the EU – if its promises are properly delivered.

He believes the UK could be capitalising in a decade, but will need that long to adjust and has more questions than answers.

“I firmly believe that in 10 years time we’ll be better off being out, (with) Brexit, being our own market… but it’s just how many people will go bust between now and then?

“And have we got the support higher up to do that? I don’t know.”

Woodhall argued agriculture is a big industry inside the EU with significant political backing, while British government support “falls short” due to the industry’s smaller size.

“It’s not worth as much, I suppose, but it is to individuals like myself – it’s a livelihood for thousands of people,” he said.

 

[andysays]

Brexit: Tonnes of beetroot left to rot as EU firms look elsewhere

Staffordshire farmer Will Woodhall says the lack of demand in Europe will cost him up to £90,000.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks to me like he took a gamble and it didn't pay off

After Brexit, Mr Woodhall said he had anticipated problems and so had grown a smaller crop. When business boomed, he decided to increase production again, only to be suddenly cut off.

Trying to predict how much of various crops you'll be able to sell (and actually make some sort of profit on) is a perennial problem within the agriculture industry, so suggesting this is all the result of Brexit is a bit disingenuous, TBH

 

[Artaxerxes]

Love beetroot but I’d buy a lot more if it wasn’t always the horrific red variety it is in the supermarkets

 

[philosophical]

Better or worse is only defined in monetary terms by complete tossers.

 

[The39thStep]

Love beetroot but I’d buy a lot more if it wasn’t always the horrific red variety it is in the supermarkets

I've grown white beetroot and for some reason didn't like it , the orange is good and Chiogga is worth growing if only for plate presentation

 

[Artaxerxes]

I've grown white beetroot and for some reason didn't like it , the orange is good and Chiogga is worth growing if only for plate presentation

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The orange/yellow is my favourite. White can be little bland and once it went black due to oxidisation when cooking which was weird but it’s nice enough

 

[teuchter]

Would you really?

Not really. Of course convenience while undertaking city breaks will win out in practice.

 

[Maggot]

Looks to me like he took a gamble and it didn't pay off



Trying to predict how much of various crops you'll be able to sell (and actually make some sort of profit on) is a perennial problem within the agriculture industry, so suggesting this is all the result of Brexit is a bit disingenuous, TBH

I love the mental gymnastics that Brexiteers use to try to deny that anything is the fault of Brexit.

If were were still in the EU he would have been able to sell it.

 

[eatmorecheese]

I heard on the radio about the plan to effectively ditch the NI Protocol.

What a surprise. This will go well...

Dead cat-orama.

 

[Ax^]

the weird thing is many of these are

ok england do your want this


ok your twats

 

[The39thStep]

We have a man down

 

[Yossarian]

We have a man down

He never seemed mad keen on the EU to start with.

The leftwing case for Brexit is strategic and clear. The EU is not – and cannot become – a democracy. Instead, it provides the most hospitable ecosystem in the developed world for rentier monopoly corporations, tax-dodging elites and organised crime. It has an executive so powerful it could crush the leftwing government of Greece; a legislature so weak that it cannot effectively determine laws or control its own civil service. A judiciary that, in the Laval and Viking judgments, subordinated workers’ right to strike to an employer’s right do business freely.

Its central bank is committed, by treaty, to favour deflation and stagnation over growth. State aid to stricken industries is prohibited. The austerity we deride in Britain as a political choice is, in fact, written into the EU treaty as a non-negotiable obligation. So are the economic principles of the Thatcher era. A Corbyn-led Labour government would have to implement its manifesto in defiance of EU law.

....

That’s the principled leftwing case for Brexit.

Now here’s the practical reason to ignore it. In two words: Boris Johnson

The leftwing case for Brexit (one day)

There are many good reasons for the UK to leave the EU. But exiting now would allow Johnson and Gove to turn Britain into a neoliberal fantasy island

www.theguardian.com

 

[philosophical]

That article is bollocks.
So what if it is an 'old' article there is a glaring omission.
Not one word about the practicalities of the EU/UK land border.

 

[contadino]

Post-Brexit trade barriers increase price of food imported from EU – report

Thinktank finds ‘clear and robust impact’ of Brexit on rising food prices, adding to cost of living crisis

www.theguardian.com

Food prices rose 6% thanks to Brexit. Not covid, not Ukraine...Brexit (according to the LSE). You can maybe dodge the bullet if you stick to eating tuna and pineapples - you know, low food miles items.

 

[gosub]

Post-Brexit trade barriers increase price of food imported from EU – report

Thinktank finds ‘clear and robust impact’ of Brexit on rising food prices, adding to cost of living crisis

www.theguardian.com

Food prices rose 6% thanks to Brexit. Not covid, not Ukraine...Brexit (according to the LSE). You can maybe dodge the bullet if you stick to eating tuna and pineapples - you know, low food miles items.

They are going to keep rising too, due to non Brexit factors

 

[RedRedRose]

What is the consensus among the lexiters? (not trolling by the way) Do they regret their position?

 

[Ax^]

I cannot speak for all lexiters but this thread is 341 pages long and we yet to find out what the benefit of leaving was in the first place