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Go on then, which part of the PSR would have stopped P&O from doing what they have done? The vague bit about employee rights? That refers to ensuring they have the same rights as other employees in the country, i.e. none in this situation in the UK. So what part are your referring to?
AFAICT, assuming P&O's actions were unlawful on the face of it, then the regs would, in theory, have obliged UK port authorities to get involved, and they would have had the power to sanction. How that would have gone in practice idk, but it looks as if it means there was one less potential consequence to targeting the UK workers as opposed to the French ones.
 
AFAICT, assuming P&O's actions were unlawful on the face of it, then the regs would, in theory, have obliged UK port authorities to get involved, and they would have had the power to sanction. How that would have gone in practice idk, but it looks as if it means there was one less potential consequence to targeting the UK workers as opposed to the French ones.


As I have posted on this thread and the P&O one, the main reason they can do this in the UK and you can't in France (or Holland and Ireland) is that when companies in the UK make staff redundant they can take on agency staff to do the supposedly redundant job immediately. That glaring piss-take has been allowed in the UK forever, in France that's a big NON.
 
As I have posted on this thread and the P&O one, the main reason they can do this in the UK and you can't in France (or Holland and Ireland) is that when companies in the UK make staff redundant they can take on agency staff to do the supposedly redundant job immediately. That glaring piss-take has been allowed in the UK forever, in France that's a big NON.
Sure, but it's possible that both things might be true, isn't it?
 
It's certainly the case that history would tell them - irrespective of what regulations do and don't apply - that the UK government is the most likely one to roll over and take it with little more than a "How rude! Harumph!" I mean, they did comprehensively vote against banning this sort of thing just last year.
 
Sure, but with most UK ports being privately owned I would imagine you'd be hard pressed to find the fucks they give.
Maybe, maybe not. I have zero experience in negotiating with a UK port authority.

I do think though that "UK port authorities can't touch us now" is unlikely to have been an irrelevant factor for P&O, even if it wasn't the only or main one.
 
Maybe, maybe not. I have zero experience in negotiating with a UK port authority.

I do think though that "UK port authorities can't touch us now" is unlikely to have been an irrelevant factor for P&O, even if it wasn't the only or main one.
P&O's decision is not result of Brexit. It does not need Brexit. It is not even made easier by Brexit. It was easy for P&O to do. And it was easy to do because it is a result of over 40 years of consistent anti-working class and anti-trade union activity (legal, economic, social and cultural).

The failures to defend working class interests, failures from within the class and the trade unions, and their supposed and potential allies, are why the 800 jobs can be binned with apparent impunity.

To be clear I say this as someone who voted for Brexit but regrets doing so as I massively misjudged the strength of the forces which could take advantage of a vote to leave.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
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I don't think P&O will come back from this. And I mean all of P&O given the price of cruises and the nightmares at the beginning of Covid. ..fuck potentially being trapped on a ship being 'looked after' by a load of Columbine earning £2.60 an hour.
 
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What a colossal cunt.

With Ukraine's ambassador to Britain present, Johnson told a Conservative Party conference it was the instinct of British people, like Ukrainians, to choose freedom every time.

"I can give you a couple of famous recent examples. When the British people voted for Brexit, in such large, large numbers, I don't believe it was because they were remotely hostile to foreigners. It's because they wanted to be free to do things differently and for this country to be able to run itself," Johnson said.


 
P&O's decision is not result of Brexit. It does not need Brexit. It is not even made easier by Brexit. It was easy for P&O to do. And it was easy to do because it is a result of over 40 years of consistent anti-working class and anti-trade union activity (legal, economic, social and cultural).

The failures to defend working class interests, failures from within the class and the trade unions, and their supposed and potential allies, are why the 800 jobs can be binned with apparent impunity.

To be clear I say this as someone who voted for Brexit but regrets doing so as I massively misjudged the strength of the forces which could take advantage of a vote to leave.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Did you have a plan for the UK/EU land border at the time you voted leave?
 
What a colossal cunt.

With Ukraine's ambassador to Britain present, Johnson told a Conservative Party conference it was the instinct of British people, like Ukrainians, to choose freedom every time.

"I can give you a couple of famous recent examples. When the British people voted for Brexit, in such large, large numbers, I don't believe it was because they were remotely hostile to foreigners. It's because they wanted to be free to do things differently and for this country to be able to run itself," Johnson said.




"Your so vain, I bet you think this war is about you"
 
What a colossal cunt.

With Ukraine's ambassador to Britain present, Johnson told a Conservative Party conference it was the instinct of British people, like Ukrainians, to choose freedom every time.

"I can give you a couple of famous recent examples. When the British people voted for Brexit, in such large, large numbers, I don't believe it was because they were remotely hostile to foreigners. It's because they wanted to be free to do things differently and for this country to be able to run itself," Johnson said.


Making Barwell look like the clever, decent voice of reason kind of demonstrates the depths of cuntitude being plumbed here...

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